# Oh yes, Tennessee, tell me again how the problem is trans care and drag queens **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 27, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723 "2023-03-27T18:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TruePisces](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/truepisces/32/13628_2.png) [@TruePisces](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruePisces)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/1 "2023-03-27T18:36:00Z")
There are some things I love about living here in Tenses, particularly in Nashville. I’ve made wonderful friends here. The food is delicious. The community that I live in is both culturally diverse and some of the most caring people I’ve ever met. But the one thing I absolutely hate is the fucking legislature. Instead of focusing on things that are really important like making sure our kids are safe in their schools (since [they aren’t](https://fox17.com/news/local/nashville-middle-tennessee-patients-reported-active-aggressor-at-nashville-elementary-school-local-news) ) or making sure that families that are struggling can get help they need, they instead focus on [gerrymandering Nashville to ensure that the Democratic vote is watered down,](https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2022-11-04/nashville-how-tennessees-blue-island-was-lost-in-a-sea-of-red), [punishing Nashville for dating to not want the problems having the RNC here]([https://apnews.com/article/abortion-politics-tennessee-state-government-nashville-](https://apnews.com/article/abortion-politics-tennessee-state-government-nashville-)[making sure that TN youth have no access to transgender care before 18](https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/tennessee-bans-gender-affirming-care-for-transgender-youth#:~:text=Bill%20Lee%20signed%20into%20law,effect%20on%20July%201%2C%202023.)04cfaba9fe49aacdd9d693207b77d992), and [drag performers](https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160784530/tennessee-ban-public-drag-shows-transgender-health-care-youth). Because of course our schools don’t need to be safer. We don’t need to worry about guns being able to be in anyone’s hands. We don’t need to worry about helping the homeless or helping families that are struggling or anything else social. No, we focus on drag queens, making kids for into whatever box they think they should be in and some parents making the decisions for all by saying that nothing that they disagree with should be in schools rather than, oh, passing attention to what their own kids are doing and asking for an alternative if they object. If we didn’t have the college package that we do thanks to my husband’s work at Vanderbilt the last 12+ years, I would beg him to look for a job in another state. Because as much as I believe in staying and fighting a system from the inside, they’ve made it dammed near impossible by attacking the deck so heavily against us. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/2 "2023-03-27T19:35:08Z")
Funny how school prayer and having God in the classroom did nothing to protect the children. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/3 "2023-03-27T20:45:02Z")
I’m sure there are Republican politicians across the land who have decided that this was the one. The last straw! Enough is enough! But Americans keep voting for those motherfuckers. We are sick fucks. What the fuck are we doing to our kids? The kids who weren’t killed in that school today get to carry this baggage around for the rest of their lives. But keep voting for Republicans, you sick fucks. “Shall not be infringed” is my favorite out-of-context sentence fragment! Thank you for starting a Pit thread for this. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/4 "2023-03-27T21:02:38Z")
Just saw this from the press conference today. (Looks like just following the press conference, actually.) > **[Angry shooting survivor who is visiting Nashville jumps in at news conference ...](https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/03/27/shooting-survivor-mother-jumps-in-nashville-presser-vpx.wsmv)** > > Ashbey Beasley, a survivor of the Highland Park mass shooting that took place July 4, 2022, jumps in at the end of a Nashville police news conference to protest gun violence. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/5 "2023-03-27T21:07:15Z")
Is there a text-based narrative to go along with that video clip, or is it just the clip? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/6 "2023-03-27T21:09:09Z")
No, it’s just the clip which is not long. Damn! I usually try to include a mention of how long the video is. 54 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/7 "2023-03-27T21:10:43Z")
Thanks. That said, Fuck! Just on principle, I hate when they do that. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/8 "2023-03-27T21:34:25Z")
Welp, the shooter was trans, so… > **[Nashville school shooter identified as Audrey Hale](https://www.rawstory.com/identity-of-tennessee-school-shooter-has-been-confirmed/)** > > The armed 28-year-old transgender woman who fatally shot three students and three adults at a private Christian school in Nashville before she was shot and killed by police has been identified by the New York Post and NBC News as Audrey Hale, a... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/9 "2023-03-27T21:40:31Z")
Right wing nutjobs are having a field day with this I guarantee. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/10 "2023-03-27T21:41:18Z")
So is the new RW asshole talking point “Guns don’t kill people, trans people kill people”? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/11 "2023-03-27T21:47:17Z")
There was this: > **[GOP Rep. Paul Gosar Falsely Blamed a Trans Woman for the Texas Shooting](https://www.them.us/story/gop-rep-paul-gosar-falsely-blamed-a-trans-woman-for-the-texas-shooting)** > > The theory seems to have started on a Discord server related to 4Chan. Who knows what they’ll do this time. ---
**Author:** ![TigerGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d2c977/32.png) [@TigerGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TigerGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/12 "2023-03-27T21:49:18Z")
Do we know the motive yet? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/13 "2023-03-27T21:50:47Z")
Maybe being a trans person in a regressive, hateful state like Tennessee makes you so angry at everyone? ---
**Author:** ![TruePisces](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/truepisces/32/13628_2.png) [@TruePisces](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruePisces)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/14 "2023-03-27T22:11:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Maybe being a trans person in a regressive, hateful state like Tennessee makes you so angry at everyone? Not the ones I know, and generally not here in Nashville. Yeah, we have some assholes here but for the most part the people in Nashville itself are pretty open minded. The surrounding counties, however, are full of assholes who couldn’t open their minds with a can opener and a map. And I’m not seeing any of our local news sources saying anything about the shooter being trans. Everything in seeing are from places like the NYPost and the Mirror, nothing official from any Nashville news or from MNPD. > [@TigerGuy](#): > > Do we know the motive yet? Not that they’ve said yet, but they did mention finding a manifesto. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/15 "2023-03-27T22:36:20Z")
Texas lawmakers [are considering legislation](https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/03/texas-drag-shows-republican-bills/) to crack down on drag shows where children would be present, i.e. at public libraries, leading one trans activist [testifying at a state Capitol hearing last week](http://chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/texas-drag-show-transgender-law-17858740.php) to say: “If you wish to eradicate transgenderism from the public life as members of your party have said… you can pry that from my cold, dead hands!” In Tennessee, a bill with similar ramifications was signed into law last Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![TruePisces](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/truepisces/32/13628_2.png) [@TruePisces](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruePisces)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/16 "2023-03-27T22:43:48Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > In Tennessee, a bill with similar ramifications was signed into law last Thursday. Oh believe me, there are more than a few of us here in Nashville that are pissed as hell about it. Pissed, but not surprised that Lee is all [“Ok for me but not for thee.”](https://www.businessinsider.com/tennessee-governor-targeting-drag-says-photo-him-dressed-woman-okay-2023-2) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/17 "2023-03-27T23:41:44Z")
Republicans: Mental health is the problem, not guns Democrats: OK, let’s pass legislation to fully fund our mental health system Republicans: No ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/18 "2023-03-28T15:01:23Z")
But what if the person with mental health issues doesn’t want their guns taken away? [Colorado House Democrats pass two gun reform bills after cutting off Republican filibuster](https://www.denverpost.com/2023/03/26/gun-reforms-colorado-governors-desk-after-democrats-republican-filibuster/). ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/19 "2023-03-28T15:05:26Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Right wing nutjobs are having a field day with this I guarantee. This is the biggest gift that could have been given to them. > **[AOC slams Marjorie Taylor Greene’s transphobic tweets over Nashville shooting](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-marjorie-taylor-greene-twitter-nashville-shooting-b2310353.html)** > > Speaking to The Independent, the far-right Georgia congresswoman also seemed to suggest Jane Fonda's comments about anti-abortion activists could be linked to the tragedy > **[Candace Owens goes viral after Nashville shooting comments](https://www.newsweek.com/candace-owens-nashville-transgender-shooter-school-trans-1790789)** > > Police officers said Audrey Hale, 28, was believed to identify as male during the shooting at the private school that left three children and three adults dead. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723/20 "2023-03-28T15:20:09Z")
Yeah as soon as the gender of this shooter came out I knew we’d NEVER hear the end of it from the usual right wing assholes. I mean, out of…how many dozens of school shooters…ONE of them is transgender…that doesn’t seem like a correlation to me…but of course these scumbags are going to try to make it one. 😖 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-yes-tennessee-tell-me-again-how-the-problem-is-trans-care-and-drag-queens/981723.md?page=2)