# Oh....you're \*that\* stupid; got it (John Mayer's Playboy interview)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 11, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558 "2010-02-11T16:12:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/1 "2010-02-11T16:12:58Z")

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Ah, to be young and stupid again.

> **[John Mayer: Jessica Simpson Is "Sexual Napalm," Jennifer Aniston Hates Twitter](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-mayer-jessica-simpso_n_456566)**
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> John Mayer: Jessica Simpson Is "Sexual Napalm," Jennifer Aniston Hates Twitter

…discussing his sex life with Jessica Simpson…

…coming across as a naive racist while trying to show he can drop the n-word and describe how black girls don’t turn him on…

…and, irony of ironies, discussing how things didn’t work out with Jennifer Aniston in part because she was suspicious of his use of New Media and where it would lead…

He’s a solid guitarist when he isn’t lost in treacly pop crap, and I have thought of him as a decently self-aware and self-deprecating funny guy in some settings (his stuff with Dave Chappelle was pretty funny) - but this is just Tool time…

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/2 "2010-02-11T16:18:02Z")

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[quote=“WordMan, post:1, topic:528558”]

…coming across as a naive racist while trying to show he can drop the n-word and describe how black girls don’t turn him on…  
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where does he drop the n-word?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/3 "2010-02-11T16:18:43Z")

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Next season on _Tool Academy_…

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/4 "2010-02-11T16:22:28Z")

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[quote=“whole\_bean, post:2, topic:528558”]

> [@WordMan](#):
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> …coming across as a naive racist while trying to show he can drop the n-word and describe how black girls don’t turn him on…  
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> 
> where does he drop the n-word?

He mentions someone saying he had a “Hood Pass” and he related that if you actually had a hood pass, you could get away with calling it a n— pass, but that he doesn’t think he has that.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/5 "2010-02-11T16:27:11Z")

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[quote=“RikWriter, post:4, topic:528558”]

> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> He mentions someone saying he had a “Hood Pass” and he related that if you actually had a hood pass, you could get away with calling it a n— pass, but that he doesn’t think he has that.

If he truly had a pass, he would know how deeply stupid it would be to try. I still watch Quentin Tarantino in Pulp Fiction wondering what the hell he was thinking going off about “dead n\*\*\*\*\* storage.” The big, huge, stinking false note of that movie…

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/6 "2010-02-11T16:28:03Z")

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I didn’t even get what he meant. What IS a hood pass?

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**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/7 "2010-02-11T16:33:04Z")

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Wait is it wrong for black girls not to turn you on, or is it just using the n-word that is wrong? Because black girls don’t turn me on, but I only ever use the n-word (I mean nigger, not nincumpoop) when I want to make fun of black people and deride their culture. So am I racist or not, bunch of white people?

Edit: I’m joking of course, I know a couple of board members aren’t white.

Another edit: I am joking again, I don’t know that.

Another edit, but part of the previous edit:

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**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/8 "2010-02-11T16:35:16Z")

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“Sexual napalm.”

Band name alert!

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/9 "2010-02-11T16:36:32Z")

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I’m embarrassed that he’s from Connecticut. (New Jersey has Bruce Springsteen and Frank Sinatra, and we have Michael Bolton and this clown.)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/10 "2010-02-11T16:36:35Z")

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> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> > [@WordMan](#):
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> > …coming across as a naive racist while trying to show he can drop the n-word and describe how black girls don’t turn him on…
> 
> where does he drop the n-word?

[Link to entire interview](http://www.playboy.com/articles/john-mayer-playboy-interview/index.html?page=2)

> [@](#):
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> Someone asked me the other day, “What does it feel like now to have a hood pass?” And by the way, it’s sort of a contradiction in terms, because if you really had a hood pass, you could call it a nigger pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a hood pass if you really have a hood pass? But I said, “I can’t really have a hood pass. I’ve never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been told, ‘We’re full.’"

That’s actually one of the less tool-ish things he says, though.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/11 "2010-02-11T16:38:42Z")

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> [@Eternal](#):
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> Wait is it wrong for black girls not to turn you on, or is it just using the n-word that is wrong? Because black girls don’t turn me on, but I only ever use the n-word (I mean nigger, not nincumpoop) when I want to make fun of black people and deride their culture. So am I racist or not, bunch of white people?

You’re a racist.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/12 "2010-02-11T16:40:07Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> I didn’t even get what he meant. What IS a hood pass?

It means that your blacks friends have told you you are cool and can hang with them, i.e., “you have a pass to hang in the 'hood”…

…which of course would immediately be revoked if you tried to talk about it that way, since you have just used them to somehow attempt to declare how cool you are.

Tool.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/13 "2010-02-11T16:48:07Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> [Link to entire interview](http://www.playboy.com/articles/john-mayer-playboy-interview/index.html?page=2)
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> That’s actually one of the less tool-ish things he says, though.

He’s fine in the concept he is trying to share - i.e., he is not truly black and had to deal with racism, so a hood pass is never the real deal - but strutting out that line of thinking in a Playboy interview - AND using the N-word to do so - is bad form and supremely arrogant…as he himself is now saying to anyone who wants to hear him…

…on HuffPo there is a link to him apologizing at a concert last night, so he is apparently on an apology tour now…

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/14 "2010-02-11T16:51:04Z")

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“A Benetton heart and a David Duke dick”, huh? Wow.

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**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/15 "2010-02-11T16:52:52Z")

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> [@Eternal](#):
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> Wait is it wrong for black girls not to turn you on, or is it just using the n-word that is wrong? Because black girls don’t turn me on, but I only ever use the n-word (I mean nigger, not nincumpoop) when I want to make fun of black people and deride their culture. So am I racist or not, bunch of white people?
> 
> Edit: I’m joking of course, I know a couple of board members aren’t white.
> 
> Another edit: I am joking again, I don’t know that.
> 
> Another edit, but part of the previous edit:

Yeah, you’re probably a racist.

WRT to OP, John Mayer has been a huge douchebag for a long, long time. Good musician, terrible person. I don’t know why people pay attention to him.

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**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/16 "2010-02-11T16:54:08Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> He’s fine in the concept he is trying to share - i.e., he is not truly black and had to deal with racism, so a hood pass is never the real deal - but strutting out that line of thinking in a Playboy interview - AND using the N-word to do so - is bad form and supremely arrogant…as he himself is now saying to anyone who wants to hear him…
> 
> …on HuffPo there is a link to him apologizing at a concert last night, so he is apparently on an apology tour now…

Although I get everything is arrogant to somebody, I wonder how this specifically is very arrogant? Was it using the N-WORD or talking about it at all, or just talking about it in Playboy, or just saying N-!!! in Playboy?

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/17 "2010-02-11T16:55:18Z")

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I always thought he was a skeezy douche, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/18 "2010-02-11T16:55:31Z")

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> [@brickbacon](#):
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> Yeah, you’re probably a racist.
> 
> WRT to OP, John Mayer has been a huge douchebag for a long, long time. Good musician, terrible person. I don’t know why people pay attention to him.

Terrible people are amusing. Why do you think so many people try to act like one?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/19 "2010-02-11T16:59:00Z")

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He and Kanye need to be locked in a room together. Then whoever emerges can be pitted against the next arrogant douchebag to emerge on the music scene, and so on.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-youre-that-stupid-got-it-john-mayers-playboy-interview/528558/20 "2010-02-11T17:03:00Z")

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I don’t really see anything offensive in the first page that the OP linked to and I admittedly didn’t read the rest too thoroughly so maybe I’m missing the douchier parts. I’m not getting the racist vibe nor do I think he was as TMI as a lot of other interviews I’ve heard.

I had always heard he was a dick and just assumed it was true until I saw him on VH-1 Storytellers and I was really impressed. I found him funny and clever and perhaps a little on the arrogant side but I figure one as talented as he is entitled to a little self-congratulation.

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