# Ohhhh.... Trojans! I get it now.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 10, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568 "2004-06-10T00:44:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/21 "2004-06-10T15:22:39Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> I did not know, until I read the previous edition of this thread, that “elbow grease” meant work. I thought it was a type of grease.

[I wonder how you formed that impression?](http://www.elbowgreaselubricants.com/default.html)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/22 "2004-06-10T15:24:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Trojans
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> * * *
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> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by nocturnal\_tick  
> I thought you were talking about the condoms, in which case I hope you do get it.
> 
> I was all over this as well:
> 
> hiding your ‘soldiers’ in something innocuous and fun (like…a balloon!) and then at the least opportune moment, they al escape and wreak havoc.

It’s always bothered me that they named a brand of condoms after the ones who _lost_ the Trojan War.

But I suppose calling them “Greeks” would have sent the wrong message. And only Classicist geeks would get “Akhaians”, “Danaians”, or “Argives”.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/23 "2004-06-10T15:59:22Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> [I wonder how you formed that impression?](http://www.elbowgreaselubricants.com/default.html)

Not _that_ kind!!

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**Author:** ![maikai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@maikai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maikai)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/24 "2004-06-10T23:37:07Z")

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> [@elfbabe](#):
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> Just this year, I had to have a friend explain to me just WHY the name of the company my grandfather worked for was so funny. I just never understood why people laughed!
> 
> That company?
> 
> _Snap-On Tools_ .

Don’t feel bad, I don’t get it either. Care to explain it?

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/25 "2004-06-11T00:32:38Z")

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Tools, like penises right?

Snap-On, like if you don’t have one of your own?

Is that what you meant by it being ‘funny’?

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/26 "2004-06-11T00:38:58Z")

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Kind like a Strap-On.

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**Author:** ![elfbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b782af/32.png) [@elfbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfbabe)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/27 "2004-06-11T00:59:42Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Tools, like penises right?
> 
> Snap-On, like if you don’t have one of your own?

Yup, basically. It’s very juvenile, but I just NEVER got it.

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**Author:** ![monica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@monica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monica)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/28 "2004-06-11T01:56:22Z")

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Our tourguide in Greece always said “Troyan.” My little brother, after hearing this, was convinced that it was true for the longest time.

Shakespeare also used “Troyan:”\*  
“My good Lysander  
I swear to thee  
By Cupid’s strongest bow  
By his best arrow with the golden head  
By the simplicity of Venus’s doves  
By that which knitteth souls and prospers love  
And by that fire which burned the Carthage queen  
When false **Troyan** under sail was seen  
By all the vows that ever men have spoke  
In number more than women ever spoke  
At the time thou hast appointed me  
Tomorrow, truly, shall I meet with thee.” ~Hermia, Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act I, Scene 1

\*Note:This may not be exactly perfect wording, as I wrote this from memory, but it’s pretty close.

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**Author:** ![Beauty\_Personified](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Beauty\_Personified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beauty_Personified)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/29 "2004-06-11T21:03:14Z")

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To stay on topic…

Before I really got into hockey, I didn’t know why the Montreal Canadiens were called the “Habs”. Whatever it meant, I suspected that was the reason why the team’s logo was an “H” inside a “C”.

Actually, I suspect a lot of casual hockey fans out there, especially those in the States, still don’t know what “Habs” means. Well, it stands for “habitants”, literally French for “inhabitants”, but more historically/traditionally, it refers to the French settlers who worked the land of the Montreal area.

As for the logo, I was wrong. The team’s official name was/is “Le Club de Hockey Canadien”. The “H” in the logo stood for “hockey”. _Simple, n’est pas?_

Anyhoo…

> [@jackelope](#):
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> As an extremely casual hockey fan, I’m rather surprised at how interesting I found all that.

One of my favorite hockey team names is the [Odessa Jackalopes](http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/logos/chl/odessa_jackalopes_2002.gif)! They played in the Western Professional Hockey League (WPHL) from 1997 to 2001, then moved to the [Central Hockey League](http://www.centralhockeyleague.com/) (CHL or CeHL).

I also like the [Bossier-Shreveport Mudbugs](http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/logos/wphl/shreveport_mudbugs_1999.gif), also of the CeHL. (They used to be just the Shreveport Mudbugs, which rolls off the tongue a lot better, IMO. But “Mudbugs” is just a cool name.)

Some of the other CeHL team names are pretty bad, particularly the ones that take liberties with word spellings.

Anyhoo…

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/30 "2004-06-11T22:29:08Z")

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I also immediately though to the condoms, and clicked on this thread expecting to find references to “hiding your soldier” so he can "enter the gates’ or something 😃

Although it wasn’t trojans that were in the horse…

I thought Weird Earl was some guy who found very strange web pages…doh!

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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/31 "2004-06-11T23:47:27Z")

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> [@Beauty Personified](#):
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> I also like the [Bossier-Shreveport Mudbugs](http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/logos/wphl/shreveport_mudbugs_1999.gif), also of the CeHL. (They used to be just the Shreveport Mudbugs, which rolls off the tongue a lot better, IMO. But “Mudbugs” is just a cool name.)

(We really need to quit this hijacking…)

FTR, “Bossier” is pronounced _BOH-zher_. It’s not terribly far from here.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/32 "2004-06-12T03:16:56Z")

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> [@Beauty Personified](#):
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> I also like the [Bossier-Shreveport Mudbugs](http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/logos/wphl/shreveport_mudbugs_1999.gif), also of the CeHL. (They used to be just the Shreveport Mudbugs, which rolls off the tongue a lot better, IMO. But “Mudbugs” is just a cool name.).

For those who don’t know, a mudbug is a crawfish. Quite tasty, 'specially if you suck the heads.

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**Author:** ![store-clerk-slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@store-clerk-slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/store-clerk-slacker)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/33 "2004-06-12T03:33:40Z")

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Here’s one that my fiancee recently figured out…_Fuzzy Navels_.

We were at a comedy club, waiting for the show to start and I ordered a fuzzy navel, for those of you who don’t know it is orange juice and peach schnapps. Half way thru the drink, **Crunchy Frog** slaps his hand on the table and says

“Ohhhh…Fuzzy Navel! Peaches are fuzzy and navel oranges! Now I get it!” he was 30 at the time :eek:

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/34 "2004-06-12T03:44:07Z")

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Jeez, **matt** & **Otto**.

I was told never to put anything bigger than your elbow in there.

Now I find out not only that some folks put their actual elbows in there, but that there’s a purpose-made product available to make it easier.

Every day’s an education. 😃

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/35 "2004-06-12T03:59:43Z")

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> [@Ghanima](#):
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> I thought Weird Earl was some guy who found very strange web pages…doh!

:smack:

It never occured to me to wonder why it was called Weird Earl’s until I read your post.

:smack: :smack:

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**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/36 "2004-06-12T16:03:32Z")

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> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#):
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> :smack:
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> It never occured to me to wonder why it was called Weird Earl’s until I read your post.
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> :smack: :smack:

WHOA!!! :smack: :smack:

Me too!

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**Author:** ![BlackNGold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BlackNGold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackNGold)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/37 "2004-06-12T20:11:38Z")

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> [@overlyverbose](#):
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> More or less the entire song “Greased Lightning” from the movie _Grease._ I never understood how dirty it was …

Me too. For some strange reason I watched the film a few months back and was shocked. I thought it was a kid’s film or something, and then the phrase “pussy wagon” brought me to a screeching halt.

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**Author:** ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/38 "2004-06-12T22:45:29Z")

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> [@monica](#):
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> Our tourguide in Greece always said “Troyan.” My little brother, after hearing this, was convinced that it was true for the longest time.
> 
> Shakespeare also used “Troyan:”\*

IIRC, that happened fairly often in earlier English usage (IIRC Chaucer does the same in _Troilus and Criseyde_). I think both forms are derived from the Latin _Troianus_ – the more common “Trojan” form probably comes from the use of **i** as a form of **j** (a practice that persisted, as I recall, into the seventeenth century). Some editors of Shakespeare modernize _Troyan_ to _Trojan_ and others don’t.

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohhhh-trojans-i-get-it-now/249568/39 "2004-06-13T01:11:41Z")

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Here’s another forehead slapping moment for me and a demonstration of how sports obsessed I am during the summertime:

A couple years ago, the news of priests molesting children was all over the TV. I was sitting at home watching TV when a news teaser aired and the anchorman said, “Church officials will meet with cardinals this afternoon to discuss the problem of pedophile priests…”

My first thought was, “Why would church officials talk with the baseball team? Well, manager Tony LaRussa _is_ Italian.”

It took about 5 minutes before it sunk in that the news was referring not to the St. Louis baseball Cardinals, but the cardinals in the _other_ kind of red hats.

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