# Ohio Democratic Debate 2008: Predictions and Commentary.

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 26, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310 "2008-02-26T23:24:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/21 "2008-02-27T02:21:01Z")

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Hillary’s answer to the healthcare question is lacking because she’s not making it clear how failure to require everyone to purchase insurance will lead to cherry-picking of clients by insurance companies. Am I missing something here?

Obama is on the ball. “Insurance companies would like a mandate”. Whether or not that’s true, it’s intuitive that this would be the case and he’s smart to state this.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/22 "2008-02-27T02:21:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Phlosphr]  
:eek: Did I just see Clinton Bitch on National TV about getting the first question all the time???

That’s rich Hillary, very presidential.  
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She’s losing early and often.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/23 "2008-02-27T02:25:12Z")

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Yep, she is. She’s getting lambasted. She looks wound tighter than a snare drum. Obama just needs to stay calm and chill.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/24 "2008-02-27T02:25:50Z")

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They’re doing what Democrats do best, which is boring the hell out of people.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/25 "2008-02-27T02:32:09Z")

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That’s why I’m playing Civ IV and drinking heavily (hooray debate drinking games!) at the same time.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/26 "2008-02-27T02:35:49Z")

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They are both doing well. HRC was more on the money with healthcare but it was a draw. “Boring” and wonkish is _exactly_ what Obama needs to do to get past the carictature of all speechifying without substance. HRC showing her intellect and apparently honest passion for what she thinks is important is what she should have done all along.

Obama benefits more than her at this point from a wonkish performance.

Ah and now he gets a chance to say that more experience making bad judgements is not what we need. Good.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/27 "2008-02-27T02:38:06Z")

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> [@Richard Parker](#):
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> The most negative thing she’ll do is **distort his position on Iraq** and call into question his preparedness

Point for me!

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/28 "2008-02-27T02:40:59Z")

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Pockystahn.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/29 "2008-02-27T02:42:15Z")

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Are the Tollyban in Pokcystan?

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/30 "2008-02-27T02:45:09Z")

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Good answer on getting out of Iraq…

Now we can concentrate on those Pockystahnees.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/31 "2008-02-27T02:49:33Z")

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Good answers so far. Obama gave the exact right answer on retaining the right to protect America against the resurgence of Al-Qaeda, and I expect that Clinton will now have to backtrack and say that she too reserves that right.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/32 "2008-02-27T02:55:04Z")

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Obama’s answers on Iraq and Pakistan were right on the money. I think he’ll destroy McCain on Iraq in the GE.

His pronunciation of Pakistan is correct, by the way. I don’t know why he gets teased for it.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/33 "2008-02-27T02:56:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Richard Parker]  
Good answers so far. Obama gave the exact right answer on retaining the right to protect America against the resurgence of Al-Qaeda, and I expect that Clinton will now have to backtrack and say that she too reserves that right.  
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She did agree with him in the last debate with Edwards. Both of them agreed with him. Just like they had the exact same healthcare debate last week.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/34 "2008-02-27T02:57:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Richard Parker]  
Good answers so far. Obama gave the exact right answer on retaining the right to protect America against the resurgence of Al-Qaeda, and I expect that Clinton will now have to backtrack and say that she too reserves that right.  
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And duly noted…she did.

Obama appears all business tonight. I have this odd sense Clinton knows she’s not going to beat him. I know hunches and non-academic inferences are scoffed here on the SDMB, but sometimes your gut tells you exactly what is correct.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/35 "2008-02-27T02:57:48Z")

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[QUOTE=mswas]  
She did agree with him in the last debate with Edwards. Both of them agreed with him. Just like they had the exact same healthcare debate last week.  
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I just meant that she didn’t say so forcefully in her answer, and before the break it sounded like she wanted a chance to say that. I don’t doubt that it is in fact her position.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/36 "2008-02-27T03:02:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Obama’s answers on Iraq and Pakistan were right on the money. I think he’ll destroy McCain on Iraq in the GE.

His pronunciation of Pakistan is correct, by the way. I don’t know why he gets teased for it.  
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I doubt Obama would mispronounce “Taliban” and “Pakistan.” It was kind of a meta-tease (like the joke about Democrats being “boring.”)

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/37 "2008-02-27T03:05:33Z")

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His answer could have been better on the pledge. On the very sheet Russert held up, Obama said “Yes…” and then gave a bunch of qualifications. The same qualifications he now gives. He should have pointed that out.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/38 "2008-02-27T03:12:48Z")

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[QUOTE=cricetus]  
They’re doing what Democrats do best, which is boring the hell out of people.  
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And the repubs don’t?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/39 "2008-02-27T03:13:54Z")

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Oh boy, rejecting antisemites in aNew York election was really showing backbone. Oy.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-democratic-debate-2008-predictions-and-commentary/439310/40 "2008-02-27T03:15:22Z")

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Reject and Denounce. Was this a win for Obama or Clinton?

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