# Ohio gubernatorial candidate misreads the national mood **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 18, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932 "2017-11-18T00:21:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/1 "2017-11-18T00:21:55Z")
Bill O’Neill, an Ohio Supreme Court Justice who is seeking the Democratic nomination for Governor, decided it would be a good idea to speak up “on behalf of all heterosexual males” and declare that the voters shouldn’t care about “sexual indiscretions” that happened decades ago. Then to establish his own personal credentials, he declared he’s had sex with fifty attractive women over the course of his lifetime and described the details of several of these relationships. When he received some criticism for his views, he responded by telling people to “lighten up”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/2 "2017-11-18T00:25:54Z")
Some cites: Ohio Supreme Court Judge Bill O’Neill brags of sex conquests - [Ohio Supreme Court Judge Bill O'Neill brags of sex conquests - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42032731) Ohio governor candidate boasts of sexual history with ‘approximately 50 very attractive females’ - [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/17/ohio-governor-candidate-boasts-of-sexual-history-with-approximately-50-very-attractive-females/?utm\_term=.9f4dec10fdf1](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/17/ohio-governor-candidate-boasts-of-sexual-history-with-approximately-50-very-attractive-females/?utm_term=.9f4dec10fdf1) Ohio Supreme Court justice under fire after bizarre Facebook post detailing sexual exploits - [Ohio Supreme Court justice under fire after bizarre Facebook post detailing sexual exploits - National | Globalnews.ca](https://globalnews.ca/news/3867579/bill-oneill-facebook-post-sexual-past/) Ohio gubernatorial candidate claims he was ‘intimate’ with ‘50 very attractive females’ - [Ohio gubernatorial candidate claims he was 'intimate' with '50 very attractive females'](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-claims-he-was-intimate-50-very-attractive-n821901) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/3 "2017-11-18T00:29:21Z")
Maybe he’s chasing the “men who are tired of uppity women” demo. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/4 "2017-11-18T03:29:56Z")
He also called the Cleveland Browns draft-dodgers after some of them kneeled during the national anthem. He was not a top-tier candidate. It’s a total fluke that he’s even on the Supreme Court. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/5 "2017-11-18T23:48:48Z")
Well, it \*is \*Ohio we’re talking about. The centrist wing of the state D party would be considered the hard right in much of Europe. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/6 "2017-11-19T00:04:36Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > He also called the Cleveland Browns draft-dodgers after some of them kneeled during the national anthem. He was not a top-tier candidate. It’s a total fluke that he’s even on the Supreme Court. Are any of them old enough to even _know_ what a “draft-dodger” was? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/7 "2017-11-19T00:31:48Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Are any of them old enough to even _know_ what a “draft-dodger” was? It’s what John Elway and Eli Manning did, right? ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/8 "2017-11-20T04:04:49Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Some cites: > > Ohio Supreme Court Judge Bill O’Neill brags of sex conquests - [Ohio Supreme Court Judge Bill O'Neill brags of sex conquests](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42032731) > Ohio governor candidate boasts of sexual history with ‘approximately 50 very attractive females’ - [Bill O'Neill, the Ohio Supreme Court justice under fire for sexual history boast - The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/17/ohio-governor-candidate-boasts-of-sexual-history-with-approximately-50-very-attractive-females/?utm_term=.9f4dec10fdf1) > Ohio Supreme Court justice under fire after bizarre Facebook post detailing sexual exploits - [Ohio Supreme Court justice under fire after bizarre Facebook post detailing sexual exploits - National | Globalnews.ca](https://globalnews.ca/news/3867579/bill-oneill-facebook-post-sexual-past/) > Ohio gubernatorial candidate claims he was ‘intimate’ with ‘50 very attractive females’ - [Ohio gubernatorial candidate claims he was 'intimate' with '50 very attractive females'](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-claims-he-was-intimate-50-very-attractive-n821901) I think we should up the ante- how great would it be if someone said to him (in a public venue)- “Pics or it didn’t happen” ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/9 "2017-11-20T05:12:13Z")
I know who I’ll be rooting for in the primary. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/10 "2017-11-20T06:26:45Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Bill O’Neill, an Ohio Supreme Court Justice who is seeking the Democratic nomination for Governor, decided it would be a good idea to speak up “on behalf of all heterosexual males” and declare that the voters shouldn’t care about “sexual indiscretions” that happened decades ago. Then to establish his own personal credentials, he declared he’s had sex with fifty attractive women over the course of his lifetime and described the details of several of these relationships. When he received some criticism for his views, he responded by telling people to “lighten up”. That’s pretty much my philosophy, accepting said sexual indiscretions weren’t illegal: we make mistakes with women and we learn. What else can you do in life. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/11 "2017-11-20T06:54:59Z")
Are you saying the national mood has changed in the last year? Remember Donald Trump and “grab her by pussy”. ---
**Author:** ![UDS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecae2f/32.png) [@UDS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/12 "2017-11-20T06:56:20Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > That’s pretty much my philosophy, accepting said sexual indiscretions weren’t illegal: we make mistakes with women and we learn. What else can you do in life. You try to avoid O’Neill’s mistake; implicitly bundling consensual and nonconsensual sexual incidents, and implying that none of them are matters of legitimate public interest. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/13 "2017-11-20T15:02:21Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Are you saying the national mood has changed in the last year? Remember Donald Trump and “grab her by pussy”. I think it’s pretty obvious the national mood has changed in the last year. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/14 "2017-11-20T22:19:34Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Well, it \*is \*Ohio we’re talking about. The centrist wing of the state D party would be considered the hard right in much of Europe. Aside from the spectacular irrelevance of what “much of Europe” thinks in deciding what constitutes leftist and rightist views in the U.S., this characterization of the Democratic Party in Ohio is grotesquely inaccurate. O’Neill (who previously came under fire for [the dodgy ethical position of running for governor while being on the state Supreme Court](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/30/justice-bill-oneill-violating-judicial-code-running-governor/814243001/)), hardly qualifies as “hard right” anywhere in the developed world. _“On Sunday, O’Neill announced he would run for governor as a Democrat. During his speech, O’Neill promised to legalize marijuana, raise the minimum wage and improve access to mental health care.”_ The guy’s private life may have a Trumpian vibe, but his political positions are a wee bit different. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-gubernatorial-candidate-misreads-the-national-mood/801932/15 "2017-11-20T23:15:27Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Bill O’Neill, an Ohio Supreme Court Justice who is seeking the Democratic nomination for Governor, decided it would be a good idea to speak up “on behalf of all heterosexual males” and declare that the voters shouldn’t care about “sexual indiscretions” that happened decades ago.". If such episodes are with _consenting adults_, pretty much. With Moore, e.g., not adults. So we should care.