# Ohio Issue 1 re Threshold to bring a Constitutional amendment to vote(election on Aug 8) {2023 It was voted down) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 17, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136 "2023-07-17T04:09:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/61 "2023-08-09T23:54:02Z")
New York Times story on the defeat of Prop 1. Two themes: 1. This is really about abortion. 2. The way the GOP tried to do it was sneaky and underhanded. One quote: > “I’m 89 years old, and I’m fed up with old men telling women how to take care of their reproduction and their sex lives,” said Thomas McAninch, a Democrat, who cast his vote in the Mason Municipal Center. “If men was having babies, there wouldn’t be none of this nonsense.” Gift link: > **[Why Ohio Voters Said No to the Ballot Measure](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/09/us/ohio-voters-issue-1-constitution.html?unlocked_article_code=wfL7O62LsVMuruMLsNsUW8za5OhWmuv9tA9v9J3Uf8JJPX-EvBmjTuHW6VqSN3liMqK60hsoKKIrVR4JcYRkFDJyMkButs0PoJ-akqleHmtyyeFe0lTzj6a729RlmxvPzIIqatT0XI8dcc87A2nyReGnSxL9P9fSjMZI5HGRrGwXfWuDXzr80s2Y66X524qeqeIPrtuN3s5aDxJQ2zR6sozS89ko-LYKf04k1Oq3rN3vdj_GsxbUTpMhzSngNeotKI4mqPCEKluIvl9DZczh8ZwzAV9ratOk7HhL8o_YqRdlbQsMKqHgob4QTpAbvuPmgKiSn1p0iTHUJArxFiLuB6sNQuSMkA&smid=url-share)** > > In addition to their views on abortion, many who cast ballots in Ohio’s referendum on Tuesday said they felt the measure’s backers weren’t being honest about its purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/62 "2023-08-10T02:18:28Z")
More good news out of Ohio: the state medical board has indefinitely suspended the license of Sherri Tenpenny, known for claiming that Covid-19 vaccines magnetize people, floating a theory about vaccination being tied in to 5G towers and saying that metro areas are liquefying bodies and pouring them into the water supply (it’s twue! it’s twue!). They didn’t however cite the need to protect the public from a practitioner making demonstrably insane claims, but acted on her failure to cooperate with the board’s investigation. > **[This doctor said vaccines magnetize people. Ohio suspended her medical license.](https://www.cleveland.com/open/2023/08/this-doctor-said-vaccines-magnetize-people-ohio-suspended-her-medical-license.html)** > > Sherri Tenpenny is no longer a licensed physician after airing fringe comments and ducking investigators. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/63 "2023-08-10T18:18:26Z")
As a lifetime Buckeye, I’m very glad we defeated this cynical, conservative, elitist, anti-democratic power grab. We, the People, spoke up, and we were heard. Now onto November, to write _Roe v. Wade_ into the Constitution of Ohio for good! And see: > **[GOP alarms go off after Ohio abortion vote](https://www.aol.com/gop-alarms-off-ohio-abortion-080000924.html)** > > The huge voter turnout against a special ballot measure in Ohio that would have made it tougher to protect abortion rights is setting off alarm bells among Republican strategists who say abortion will be problem for their party in 2024. Republicans... ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/64 "2023-08-10T18:43:07Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > the state medical board has indefinitely suspended the license of Sherri Tenpenny, She sounds authentically mentally ill. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/65 "2023-08-10T19:22:36Z")
Yes, here and in Oklahoma, the People have said loudly they do not want an Abortion ban. True, the People want some"reasonable" abortion controls, but the idea of a total ban they hate. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/66 "2023-08-10T19:25:37Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > the state medical board has indefinitely suspended the license of Sherri Tenpenny, > > She sounds authentically mentally ill. From her statements she sounds even loonier than [Meryl Nass M.D.](https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/health/meryl-nass-maine-covid-robert-f-kennedy-jr-us-fda-ivermectin/97-a611d052-b764-4f3a-be5e-cb6e5a4caad2), another antivax practitioner who was ordered by the medical board in Maine to undergo a neuropsychiatric examination. Nass was the subject of six days of recent hearings by the board, which has yet to decide on her final license status (it’s currently suspended). Nass, according to the board, said that “Operation Warp Speed is the result of an agenda that “seems to be the same one that has been in play since 2001, you know, the 9/11. Which is increased surveillance, right, increased central control, and some blurring of national borders and national sovereignty, which we haven’t seen much of yet but the close collusion of many countries with the same program indicates that there is international collusion going on at high levels”; and…“if you did not know that the CDC was a criminal agency by now, this ought to get you going.” Actually that seems almost sane in comparison to Tenpenny. Nass has garnered support from RFK Jr.'s Children’s Health Defense, the Epoch Times and Dr. Drew, because of course she has. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/67 "2023-08-11T00:22:40Z")
Missouri had the same battle plan as Ohio, with a proposal to raise the requirements for amending the state constitution, Now it looks like they’re reassessing their options. > **[After Ohio vote, Missouri GOP leader doubts plan to limit voters’ say over...](https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/government-politics/after-ohio-vote-missouri-gop-leader-doubts-plan-to-limit-voters-say-over-constitution/article_e10d4fe8-36c6-11ee-81a6-b36d15567527.html)** > > Ohio voters, by a 57%-43% margin, soundly rejected a plan that would’ve required constitutional amendments to receive a 60% majority for passage. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/68 "2023-08-11T03:29:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > the state medical board has indefinitely suspended the license of Sherri Tenpenny, > > She sounds authentically mentally ill. I hope some Ohio media outlet will use the headline TENPENNY NAILED. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/69 "2023-08-11T13:24:41Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I hope some Ohio media outlet will use the headline TENPENNY NAILED. Well played. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/70 "2023-08-11T13:43:35Z")
Heheheh. Thanks! > **[Frank LaRose's very bad day. Sec. of State dodged press, issued angry...](https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2023/08/11/frank-laroses-very-bad-day-sec-of-state-dodged-press-issued-angry-statement-as-issue-1-failed/)** > > By Tuesday morning, Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose, who was the most visible face of Issue 1, might have been worried. Before noon, he ducked a meeting with reporters. That afternoon, he was attacked by an Arizona Republican who came to Ohio to... I would revise this headline, too, to “Frank LaRose’s horrible, awful, no-good, very bad day.” ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/71 "2023-08-11T13:45:46Z")
Agreed! with the nitpick: “terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/72 "2023-08-11T13:52:46Z")
Right you are. And a further nitpick: I now see that “no good” isn’t hyphenated. 😁 > **[Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day (Classic Board...](https://www.amazon.com/Alexander-Terrible-Horrible-Classic-Board/dp/1442498161)** > > Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day (Classic Board Books) \[Viorst, Judith, Cruz, Ray\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day (Classic Board Books) ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/73 "2023-08-11T14:13:22Z")
Ha! I just assumed you were right about that part and didn’t bother to look it up. Obviously, not the right call on my part. Thanks for the nitpick to my nitpick and for fighting my ignorance… “There were limas for dinner and I hate limas. I also hate the people in Lima\* and Cleveland and Toledo and all the other stupid people in this stupid state who didn’t vote the way I told them to. So I had a tantrum.” \*Yes, I looked it up, and Allen County, which includes Lima, voted yes. Poetic license. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/74 "2023-08-11T14:18:25Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Right you are. And a further nitpick: I now see that “no good” isn’t hyphenated. 😁 How embarrassing. You should move to Australia. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/75 "2023-08-11T14:19:07Z")
You mean “no good” isn’t hyphenated…even in Australia? ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/76 "2023-08-11T14:20:55Z")
Inside joke. It was a running gag in the book @Elendil_s_Heir was referring to. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/77 "2023-08-11T14:21:39Z")
Yes, I knew that 🙂 Check the book’s last line. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/78 "2023-08-11T14:22:46Z")
My children are in their 30s. A long time since !'ve read it. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/79 "2023-08-11T14:24:10Z")
Fair enough! It’s something like “My mother says some days are like that. Even in Australia.” ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/80 "2023-08-11T14:24:44Z")
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