# Ohio Issue 1 re Threshold to bring a Constitutional amendment to vote(election on Aug 8) {2023 It was voted down)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 17, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136 "2023-07-17T04:09:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/81 "2023-08-11T18:38:28Z")

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Ohio Republicans warning about the insidious effects that big money special interests might have on _voters_ is a delightful piece of irony.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/82 "2023-08-11T19:07:09Z")

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And complaining that the election was scheduled too soon - _they’re_ the ones who picked the Aug. 8 date. Idjits: [State Issue 1 is ‘probably’ coming back in the future, Ohio Senate president says - cleveland.com](https://www.cleveland.com/open/2023/08/state-issue-1-is-probably-coming-back-in-the-future-ohio-senate-president-says.html)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/83 "2023-08-11T19:26:36Z")

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I love the part of that where he says that big money interests will also try to thwart the will of the people about redistricting and minimum wage.

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> “From its inception, Issue 1 was about giving Ohioans a choice in the structure of their founding document. Tonight, they have made their choice,” he said.

Yup, we’ve chosen to continue to have a choice in the structure of our founding document.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/84 "2023-08-11T19:28:25Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> Ohio Republicans warning about the insidious effects that big money special interests might have on _voters_ is a delightful piece of irony.

No, hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/85 "2023-08-11T19:54:17Z")

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Why don’t Ohio Republicans just outlaw voting… full stop? Just eliminate the problem right at the source. If there is unrest about this, they can get the police or Ohio National Guard to “restore order” using whatever means necessary. And then blame out of state instigators, or BLM or Antifa, or shape-shifting Lizard people or whatever.

I mean, that’s where things are heading as far as I can see.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/86 "2023-08-11T22:07:48Z")

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One reason could be that Trump’s current woes are demonstrating that the power to be absolutely believed by a specific segment of the population only goes so far.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/87 "2023-08-12T15:31:33Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And complaining that the election was scheduled too soon - _they’re_ the ones who picked the Aug. 8 date. Idjits: [State Issue 1 is ‘probably’ coming back in the future, Ohio Senate president says - cleveland.com](https://www.cleveland.com/open/2023/08/state-issue-1-is-probably-coming-back-in-the-future-ohio-senate-president-says.html)

If Ohio manages to pass an abortion rights amendment you’ll never see Issue 1 again, because the Republicans will suddenly realize how wise it is to require only a bare majority to repeal it.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/88 "2023-08-12T17:08:48Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> If Ohio manages to pass an abortion rights amendment you’ll never see Issue 1 again, because the Republicans will suddenly realize how wise it is to require only a bare majority to repeal it.

My understanding is that Issue 1 only applied to citizens initiatives. Ballot measures proposed by the legislature still had only a 50% + 1 requirement to pass. However, if my understanding is wrong, they could put Issue 1 and a repeal on the ballot at the same time. Both would require only 50%+1 to pass but would slam the door for future initiatives.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/89 "2023-08-12T19:50:45Z")

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An effort to keep Ohio voters from being heard on abortion rights has failed.

> **[Ohio Supreme Court rejects legal challenge, clears path for November abortion...](https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/11/ohio-supreme-court-rejects-legal-challenge-to-abortion-rights-issue/70567955007/)**
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> Ohioans will vote on abortion access this November after the Ohio Supreme Court rejected a legal challenge to backers' petitions.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/90 "2023-08-12T23:04:19Z")

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**dtilque** , Issue 1, had it passed, would have applied to both General Assembly-initiated referenda and citizen-initiated ones. But the Republican supermajority in the state legislature can get the ball rolling much more easily than the citizenry, in any event.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/91 "2023-11-08T02:03:20Z")

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So? What’s happening?

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/92 "2023-11-08T02:06:37Z")

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[Current thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-watch-2023/992753/11)

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/93 "2023-11-08T02:07:15Z")

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Thanks!

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/94 "2023-11-08T03:21:04Z")

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> **[Ohio voters enshrine abortion access in constitution in latest statewide win...](https://apnews.com/article/ohio-abortion-amendment-election-2023-fe3e06747b616507d8ca21ea26485270)**
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> Ohio voters have approved a constitutional amendment that guarantees the right to abortion and other forms of reproductive health care. The outcome of Tuesday’s intense, off-year election was the latest blow for abortion opponents.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-issue-1-re-threshold-to-bring-a-constitutional-amendment-to-vote-election-on-aug-8-2023-it-was-voted-down/987136/95 "2023-11-08T07:31:40Z")

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Yes. People support _limits on abortions_= more or less like the Dems wants. _But not a ban._

Dumping Roe was a huge GOP error.

And oddly the only promise trump kept.

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