# Ohio plans to remove President Biden from the November ballot **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 23, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941 "2024-05-23T03:18:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/41 "2024-05-24T02:26:03Z")
Try it again - [Gift link to the NYT article about DeWine.](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/23/us/politics/biden-ohio-ballot-special-session.html?unlocked_article_code=1.uU0.D2wr.ovFPnuF4MEB2&smid=url-share) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/42 "2024-05-24T02:36:37Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > The idea that the majority of people in Ohio don’t want abortion banned, foreign money or no foreign money, is apparently foreign to them. As if Republicans care what the majority of people think. ---
**Author:** ![BlueOhio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/43 "2024-05-24T12:04:12Z")
The Ohio GOP isn’t any different from the rest of the GOP - just awful people doing awful things. DeWine is slightly less awful for once, acting like a dad wading in to their kid’s fight. Hopefully it works. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/44 "2024-05-24T12:16:04Z")
DeWine always had a bit of realpolitik in him. He recognizes that there actually still is a line and as long as you stay one step shy of it, people will let you do pretty much anything else. That’s something the current party leaders never really got - with them, the principle has been that it’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission or better yet, ask for neither and dare people to call you on things. It’s quite apparent DeWine at least believes that explicit rejection of a democratic principle such as voting may be too much for voters. He may be wrong or might be wrong, but it’s not an unreasonable take. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/45 "2024-05-24T12:29:15Z")
I tend to be a rues follower, but I am willing to make exceptions for “rules” that are made for no or bullshit reasons and that are not consistently applied. As is clearly this case. This is yet another example of the foolishness of leaving so many aspects of presidential elections to the individual states. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/46 "2024-05-24T12:43:23Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > The current Ohio rule was adopted in 2010 - when it increased the deadline from 60 to 90 days. Note that as far back as 1956 (!), both parties’ conventions would not have allowed sufficient time under the current 90 day rule, so this isn’t exactly a problem Ohio lawmakers should have been shocked by. At the time of adoption, they had 50+ years (!!) of examples to know it would be an issue. > [@Dinsdale](#): > > This is yet another example of the foolishness of leaving so many aspects of presidential elections to the individual states. It’s like that thing with New Hampshire decreeing by law that their primary will always be first no matter what anyone else does. The state legislatures and state parties telling the national party committees “remember who is _really_ ‘sovereign’ here!” So for 70+ years the national conventions have been “too late” for Ohio, and instead of accepting reality and saying “OK, just make sure we get the name before Labor Day” they decide they’d rather be seen saying “You SHOULD be done by July!!!” but magnanimously making an exception every time. Note too that the late conventions in an age where you usually know who’s going to be the nominee by April, or in extreme cases by Memorial Day, is itself an artifact of internal party organizational issues (in the presidential primary most often you determine how many committed delegates will go, but it’s _afterwards_ that you choose WHO will those delegates be, and a lot of that depends on _local_ conventions) and of wanting to give your candidate a homestretch “bump”. ---
**Author:** ![Apodder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apodder/32/17727_2.png) [@Apodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apodder)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/47 "2024-05-24T18:47:00Z")
Those of us with sense are pissed. Also: [Mike DeWine calls for lawmakers to get Joe Biden on Ohio Ballot](https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2024/05/23/mike-dewine-to-speak-about-challenge-to-get-joe-biden-on-ohio-ballot/73824118007/?utm_source=columbusdispatch-dailybriefing-strada&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailybriefing-headline-stack&utm_term=Content%20List%20-%20Stacking%20-%20optimized&utm_content=ncod-columbus-nletter65) ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/48 "2024-05-24T18:58:19Z")
A republican, doing the right thing? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/49 "2024-05-24T19:11:48Z")
Well, DeWine said the special session will also address prohibiting campaign spending by foreign nationals. It was the Ohio GOP’s insistence on tying to two together that sank the bill during their previous session. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/50 "2024-05-24T19:12:30Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Well, DeWine said the special session will also address prohibiting campaign spending by foreign nationals Trump isn’t going to like that part. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/51 "2024-05-24T19:17:19Z")
Oh, there will be an exception for Trump! 😆 ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/52 "2024-05-25T01:19:28Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Well, DeWine said the special session will also address prohibiting campaign spending by foreign nationals. It was the Ohio GOP’s insistence on tying to two together that sank the bill during their previous session. Even the GOP speaker of the Ohio house is against the proposed foreign national ban, which is more restrictive than it sounds. It’s the GOP senate that’s insistent on getting something in return for letting the Democratic ticket on the ballot. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/53 "2024-05-28T20:09:16Z")
Linked from “Joe Biden run-up” thread: ### [Democrats to nominate Joe Biden in virtual session to ensure he’s on Ohio ballot](https://www.aol.com/democrats-nominate-joe-biden-virtual-170332682.html) > [@President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1410): > > Ohio’s recalcitrant GOP legislators are making this bullshit necessary: ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/54 "2024-06-02T15:55:12Z")
Biden should obviously be on the Ohio ballot, but it’s not like they just changed the rules. That they apparently weren’t going to pass the waiver like they’d done a few times previously shouldn’t surprise anyone who’s paid any attention to the decline of the QOP over the last few years. The parties should be setting their nominating rules based on the existing rules, not their determination of the best time for a TV spectacle. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941/55 "2024-06-02T16:58:59Z")
In any case Ohio has gone ahead and amended the deadline, though the “virtual roll” will still be performed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-plans-to-remove-president-biden-from-the-november-ballot/1001941.md?page=2)