# Ohio train derailment - is there a media coverup?

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**Created:** [February 13, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695 "2023-02-13T04:01:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/41 "2023-03-10T02:03:30Z")

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“Safe railroad” could be a loose term meaning they transport a lot of safes.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/42 "2023-03-10T03:14:02Z")

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Calling Dagny Taggart!

(Wish we could do up- or downvotes here, because I would recommend doing one or the other if anyone “got it.”)

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/43 "2023-03-10T04:47:34Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Calling Dagny Taggart!

Shrugs, it’s on my retirement list.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/44 "2023-03-10T13:02:35Z")

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Well, if they have fewer incidents than other railroads then they are “safer.”

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/45 "2023-03-13T02:14:21Z")

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[CNN — 10 Mar 2023](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/10/us/springfield-derailment-norfolk-southern-safety-issue/index.html)

- Norfolk Southern found loose wheels on a series of rail cars involved in [last week’s](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/04/us/clark-county-norfolk-southern-train-derailment/index.html)derailment near Springfield, Ohio, the company has[announced](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/norfolk-southern-determines-urgent-railcar-safety-issue-301768570.html), the latest safety problem to emerge as scrutiny intensifies on the operator – and [US freight safety broadly](https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/ohio-train-derailment-senate-hearing-03-09-23) – following that wreck, a toxic derailment[five weeks ago](https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/23/us/east-palestine-ohio-train-derailment-timeline/index.html) in another Ohio town and a derailment Thursday in Alabama.

- In probing the Springfield wreck scene Sunday, the company “determined that a specific model and series of rail cars had loose wheels, which could cause a derailment,” officials said Thursday in a statement, calling it an “urgent railcar safety issue.”

- In probing the Springfield wreck scene Sunday, the company “determined that a specific model and series of rail cars had loose wheels, which could cause a derailment,” officials said Thursday in a statement, calling it an “urgent railcar safety issue.”

- As a result, the Association of American Railroads issued an advisory to halt the use of these cars until they can be inspected for the wheel sets in question. It instructs railroad companies to inspect and remove wheel sets “mounted by National Steel Car” between August and this month because “these wheels sets are at an increased risk of an out of gauge derailment,” states the advisory, which the trade group sent to CNN.

Or to put it in simpler terms… DOH

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/46 "2023-03-31T16:14:27Z")

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> **[US Justice Department sues Norfolk Southern following February's train...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/31/us/us-norfolk-southern-lawsuit/index.html)**
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> The Justice Department filed a lawsuit against Norfolk Southern Railway Company on Thursday, seeking damages for alleged Clean Water Act violations for the pollutants that were said to have been discharged with the train derailment in Ohio earlier...

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/47 "2024-03-07T14:34:15Z")

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NBC posted this article saying they have regrets about burning the train car after the derailment.

> **[One year after East Palestine train derailment, Norfolk Southern CEO says...](https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/norfolk-southern-ceo-alan-shaw-train-derailment-rcna137021)**
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> Some residents are drinking only bottled water because they don’t believe the water in the town is safe.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/48 "2024-03-07T16:09:52Z")

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Why did NBC burn a rail car in the first place? Not their job.

😁 Careful writing is its own reward.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/49 "2024-03-11T17:06:23Z")

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> Today, under questioning from Senator JD Vance (R-OH), National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) Chair Jennifer Homendy revealed that the chemical explosion in East Palestine, Ohio was not necessary and that the chemical experts who advised against the “vent and burn” were ignored.

> **[NTSB CHAIR HOMENDY: CHEMICAL EXPLOSION IN EAST PALESTINE DIDN'T NEED TO...](https://www.vance.senate.gov/press-releases/ntsb-chair-homendy-chemical-explosion-in-east-palestine-didnt-need-to-happen-experts-were-ignored/)**
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> Senator Vance: “This town very well may have been poisoned to facilitate the rapid movement of freight” WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, under questioning from Senator JD Vance (R-OH), National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) Chair...

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/50 "2024-03-11T17:12:10Z")

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> Senator Vance: “This town very well may have been poisoned to facilitate the rapid movement of freight”

And? Remember Mr. Vance you’re from the party that put profits over people when it was Covid in question.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/51 "2024-04-11T01:44:55Z")

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> **[Norfolk Southern to pay $600M in Ohio train derailment lawsuit](https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-to-pay-600m-in-ohio-train-derailment-lawsuit)**
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> Norfolk Southern announced Tuesday that it will pay a $600 million settlement of a class-action lawsuit after a train derailed in East Palestine, Ohio, in February 2023.

I am surprised it settled this quickly.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/52 "2024-05-23T17:40:34Z")

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> **[Judge signs off on $600 million Ohio train derailment settlement but...](https://apnews.com/article/east-palestine-ohio-train-derailment-settlement-464c1312b19dc075ea159ae0e7ee0b0a)**
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> A federal judge has signed off on the $600 million class action settlement over last year's disastrous Norfolk Southern derailment in eastern Ohio, but many people who live near East Palestine are still wondering how much they will end up with out of...

> **[Norfolk Southern will pay modest $15 million fine as part of federal...](https://apnews.com/article/norfolk-southern-east-palestine-derailment-federal-settlement-7d17ffc3f3f5763c0306cf10e2012713)**
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> The federal government agreed to a modest $15 million fine for Norfolk Southern over last year’s disastrous derailment in East Palestine, Ohio.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohio-train-derailment-is-there-a-media-coverup/979695/53 "2024-06-25T16:50:18Z")

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**Burn-off of toxics in Ohio derailment was unnecessary, NTSB investigators say** [Repost of Washington Post article]

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/burn-off-of-toxics-in-ohio-derailment-was-unnecessary-ntsb-investigators-say/ar-BB1oS5ml?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=c1bd16bd2d23432bd5ac090818ac7ae0&ei=45](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/burn-off-of-toxics-in-ohio-derailment-was-unnecessary-ntsb-investigators-say/ar-BB1oS5ml?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=c1bd16bd2d23432bd5ac090818ac7ae0&ei=45)

After hearing from investigators, board members will vote Tuesday on their final findings and recommendations, including the probable cause of the derailment; the NTSB’s full final report will follow several weeks later.

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