# Ohioans, you have one up-front legislator! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 27, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158 "2015-03-27T21:33:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/1 "2015-03-27T21:33:39Z")
[http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/“i-dare-any-one-of-you-to-judge-me”-us-lawmaker-says-she-was-raped-and-had-an-abortion/ar-AAa5y35](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/%E2%80%9Ci-dare-any-one-of-you-to-judge-me%E2%80%9D-us-lawmaker-says-she-was-raped-and-had-an-abortion/ar-AAa5y35) Basically, Dem Rep Teresa Fedor got sick and tired of men(mostly) debating a very restrictive abortion bill. So she got up on her hind legs and told them they shouldn’t dare judge her. She’d been raped and got pregnant many years ago, while she was in the military. She had an abortion. Ms. Fedor I salute you for speaking out like that. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/2 "2015-03-28T23:04:03Z")
Brava, Rep Fedor! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/3 "2015-03-28T23:07:42Z")
“She got up on her hind legs”? Why such an odd phrase? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/4 "2015-03-29T01:06:36Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > “She got up on her hind legs”? Why such an odd phrase? Not so odd to me. A four legged animal standing up on it’s hind legs can be an agressive act of defiance. I’ve know this expression all my 70 years. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/5 "2015-03-29T06:07:18Z")
I know what hind legs refers to when it comes to animals but it didn’t sound flattering when referring to a human. Frankly, it sounds insulting. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/6 "2015-03-30T02:16:12Z")
I read it as a backhand whack at the male legislators, implying that they were treating all women as subhuman animals. (And then this female animal got up on her hind legs and confronted them) ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/7 "2015-03-30T05:13:17Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > [MSN](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/%E2%80%9Ci-dare-any-one-of-you-to-judge-me%E2%80%9D-us-lawmaker-says-she-was-raped-and-had-an-abortion/ar-AAa5y35) > > Basically, Dem Rep Teresa Fedor got sick and tired of men(mostly) debating a very restrictive abortion bill. So she got up on her hind legs and told them they shouldn’t dare judge her. She’d been raped and got pregnant many years ago, while she was in the military. She had an abortion. > > Ms. Fedor I salute you for speaking out like that. The real disgusting thing is that you can hear some of her male colleagues laughing as she is speaking. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/8 "2015-03-30T10:06:16Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Not so odd to me. A four legged animal standing up on it’s hind legs can be an agressive act of defiance. I’ve know this expression all my 70 years. This is how I meant it. I was so impressed that I went to the Ohio government website, found her legislative email, and sent her a note complimenting her actions. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/9 "2015-03-30T12:36:39Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I know what hind legs refers to when it comes to animals but it didn’t sound flattering when referring to a human. Frankly, it sounds insulting. John Mortimer’s barrister Horace Rumpole frequently spoke about “getting up on his hind legs” to make a point, and obviously wasn’t insulting himself at all. It was, if anything, self-deprecating. I assumed the poster was channeling Mortimer. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/10 "2015-03-30T13:39:31Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > I read it as a backhand whack at the male legislators, implying that they were treating all women as subhuman animals. (And then this female animal got up on her hind legs and confronted them) For the record, that’s how I understood it, as well. > [@Baker](#): > > This is how I meant it. > > I was so impressed that I went to the Ohio government website, found her legislative email, and sent her a note complimenting her actions. Is it against board rules to post a link to it here so the rest of us lazy slobs don’t have to duplicate your research? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/11 "2015-03-30T20:45:55Z")
Getting up on your “hind legs” is an old-timey way of describing someone who is boldly/aggressively taking a stand on something. It has certainly applied to men in the past, and wasn’t considered an insult. ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/12 "2015-03-30T21:45:13Z")
I have a cousin who works at the state house. I think my wife and I are going to find the best way to send her some flowers. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/13 "2015-03-31T00:08:42Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Is it against board rules to post a link to it here so the rest of us lazy slobs don’t have to duplicate your research? Try this: [http://www.ohiohouse.gov/teresa-fedor](http://www.ohiohouse.gov/teresa-fedor) ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/14 "2015-04-01T15:01:20Z")
Thank you kindly, **Baker**. I’ve sent a support/gratitude note via their online form. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/15 "2015-04-01T15:07:28Z")
_Two legs bad, four legs good._ ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/16 "2015-04-01T16:54:46Z")
Did they end up passing the anti-abortion bill in question or is it still in process? I think its important for women especially to speak out like this. The normalization of abortion by pulling back the cloak of shame and secrecy can only help more people accept it. That, and the new clinic I just read that does abortions but is oriented more like a spa is a step in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/17 "2015-04-01T20:25:53Z")
> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#): > > The real disgusting thing is that you can hear some of her male colleagues laughing as she is speaking. Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/18 "2015-04-02T17:59:58Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Did they end up passing the anti-abortion bill in question or is it still in process? > > I think its important for women especially to speak out like this. The normalization of abortion by pulling back the cloak of shame and secrecy can only help more people accept it. That, and the new clinic I just read that does abortions but is oriented more like a spa is a step in the right direction. This is very true. As long as abortion iss thought of as this dirty, shameful thing, as irredeemably “bad,” then it will be im-fucking-possible to have dialogue free of overwrought, emotional, “Won’t somebody pleeeeease think of the _children_?!?” type of hyperbole, and instead have the debate grounded in rational logic and scientific facts. I know, personally, a couple of folks who thought of getting an abortion as something akin to getting a DUI – nothing more or less than a source of personal shame. When they found out I’d gotten one, you could literally \*see \*their mental state shift. "Huh. \*\*Purple \*\*had one and she’s not Satan Incarnate. Hmmm … " :dubious: … which opened their minds to the possibility of rational, logical debate. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohioans-you-have-one-up-front-legislator/716158/19 "2015-04-02T19:54:29Z")
> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#): > > The real disgusting thing is that you can hear some of her male colleagues laughing as she is speaking. Raising little future rapist sons at home, no doubt. Classy.