# OJ and the Bronco - is there any other vehicle that has notoriety in this manner?

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**Created:** [October 6, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-and-the-bronco-is-there-any-other-vehicle-that-has-notoriety-in-this-manner/822577 "2018-10-06T20:02:14Z")\
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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> The Spirit of St. Louis, if we’re talking any type of vehicle.

The carriage of Archduke Rudolf on the day of his assassination. (Was he actually in that when he was shot?)

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Crown Victorias and cops?

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How about the [Rimac Concept One](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimac_Concept_One)? Most people who know the car know it as the car that [Richard Hammond crashed](https://jalopnik.com/heres-what-happened-in-richard-hammonds-terrifying-supe-1796452414).

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When vehicle discussions inevitably shift to the classic 4-horse chariot, is not Gaius Appuleius Diocles the first name to pop into your mind?

Ayrton Senna/F1 = meh  
Richard Petty/NASCAR = meh  
Appuleius Diocles/Charioteer = rock star

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-and-the-bronco-is-there-any-other-vehicle-that-has-notoriety-in-this-manner/822577/45 "2018-10-08T00:26:06Z")

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Franz Ferdinand was riding in a motorcar, which was supposedly cursed:

> **[Curses! Archduke Franz Ferdinand and His Astounding Death Car](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/curses-archduke-franz-ferdinand-and-his-astounding-death-car-27381052/)**
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> Was the man whose assassination began World War I riding in a car destined to bring death to a series of owners?

However, I don’t think this counts as the make of the car isn’t well know except to historians of the event.

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I was looking for quirky used cars and someone mentioned an Aston-Martin, and I could NOT picture an ordinary car. My mind immediately conjured up a silver coupe with tire-shredding hub caps, oil slick/machine gun tailpipes, rotating license plates, and an ejector seat.

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The AMC Pacer

> **[AMC Pacer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Pacer)**
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> The AMC Pacer is a two-door compact car produced in the United States by American Motors Corporation (AMC) from the 1975 through the 1980 model years. The Pacer was also made in Mexico by Vehículos Automotores Mexicanos (VAM) from 1976 until 1979 and positioned as a premium-priced luxury car.
> Design work began in 1971. The rounded shape and large glass area were unusual compared with the three-box designs of the era. The Pacer's width is equal to full-sized domestic vehicles at the time, and t...

A car famous for being quirky.

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There is only one acceptable color for the Fokker Dr.I.

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> This is an interesting question. I can only think of one sorta related example, and I may well be wrong about even that one. In 1996, Ryder sold its consumer truck rental business and rebranded itself, shedding its recognizable bright yellow paint scheme. I don’t know this to be true, but I’ve always suspected this was because a yellow Ryder truck was used in the Oklahoma City bombing. At least I recall a period in which the yellow Ryder truck immediately brought the bombing to mind, and I think that was alleviated somewhat by the rebranding.
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> Not quite what you were looking for, but it’s all I got.

Actually, a yellow Ryder truck seems exactly what the OP is looking for. After OKC any sighting of a yellow Ryder truck would bring the bombing to mind, whereas I don’t recall _ever_ seeing a white Bronco and thinking, “OJ”.

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This will be a real downer with the name vehicle association:

Christa McAuliffe - Challenger Disaster

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In my mind I associate pink Cadillac convertibles with Jayne Mansfield, but that wasn’t the car she was killed in. It is fairly obscure.

1966 Buick Electra 225

There was even a [film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayne_Mansfield's_Car) nominally (well, stretching quite a bit) about that car.

I can think of lots of celebs that died or had other notable events in cars. But can’t really name them at all. So outside the OP’s example, it’s pretty much a blank for me.

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> This will be a real downer with the name vehicle association:
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> Christa McAuliffe - Challenger Disaster

It’s true though. I couldn’t tell you the name of any of the other shuttles\*, but I’ll never forget that one.

As a measure of overall recognition though, I don’t think it rivals the white bronco.

- Including the one I walked through at a local museum. “Discovery” perhaps?

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Probably just me, but VW bugs always remind me of Ted Bundy.

This thread got me to wondering where the Bronco is now.

Turns out both it and Bundy’s VW are at the [Alcatraz East Crime Museum in Tennessee.](https://www.alcatrazeast.com/inside-alcatraz-east/artifacts/oj-simpson-bronco/)

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While the OP eliminated the DeLorean because of the _Back to the Future_ franchise, I will nominate it anyway - the _second_ thing I think of when I see a DeLorean was John DeLorean’s cocaine bust while trying to raise money to save the company. That’s a real life person and event, so it qualifies. And it was big news at the time, there were [posters](https://www.antiquesnavigator.com/d-1042164/vintage-delorean-coke-dealer-poster-back-to-the-future-coca-cola-very-rare-80s.html)and everything.

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> [@JB99](#):
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> There is only one acceptable color for the Fokker Dr.I.

That’s the baddest model Fokker of them all!

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“Ted Kennedy’s Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns” is a fairly well known phrase.

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The 1952 Cadillac that Hank Williams died in has some legend to it.

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Probably just me, but VW bugs always remind me of Ted Bundy.

Yup, same here.

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While most people may not know the exact model, say “Man standing in front of tank” or even “Chinese Tank” and pretty much everyone will tell you the famous man standing in front of a group of Type 59 tanks in Tienanmen Square in 1989. It’s the only other vehicle besides the White Bronco I can remember people referencing constantly in popular media in regards to a certain incident it was affiliated with.

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> Yeah, I have to come to the conclusion that there is no equivalent to the Bronco in terms of a specific model of car having the same connotations of notoriety based on connection to a certain event.

Sometime later I read that in the quarter following the crimes, white Ford Broncho sales increased by a third.

I thought that was an interesting sociological observation. I never saw that anybody made anything of it, though.

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