# OJ Simpson has died **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** celebrity-death\ **Created:** [April 11, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157 "2024-04-11T14:58:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/183 "2024-04-16T21:40:05Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Um, Kyle was innocent. He was acquitted, but he was far from innocent. He went looking for trouble, and found it, but by the legal definitions, or through a biased jury, he didn’t commit a convictable offense. He lucked out. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/184 "2024-04-16T22:16:10Z")
I didn’t think there were any open controversies about Joe Lieberman when he died. 🤷‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/185 "2024-04-17T01:27:43Z")
Rather that guilt or innocence think of it as proven or unproven. The jury found the case unproven, not found him innocent. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/186 "2024-04-17T03:41:56Z")
Because when you are on the ground and someone is trying to murder you you should let them. Its the innocent thing to do. The attempted murderer was looking for trouble. Aside- theres a protest at Kent State cause Kyle was there and people are butthurt, except for the guy who was armhurt. No more hijack. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/187 "2024-04-17T18:24:13Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > I find it interesting that the [Joe Lieberman has died](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2000-democratic-vp-candidate-joe-lieberman-has-died-at-82/999479) thread died after 20 posts, but this one is going strong after 178 posts. > > It probably says something about American celebrity culture or something. One could argue that by opposing the public option, Lieberman caused the death of more people than OJ. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/188 "2024-04-17T18:25:41Z")
That thought had occurred to me. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/189 "2024-04-17T18:41:23Z")
[![](https://i.imgur.com/r6VKpGf.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/r6VKpGf.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/190 "2024-04-17T21:23:38Z")
Exactly how would hiring a professional killer be outrageously farfetched, not make him legally or morally culpable for murder, or not be possible? I’d like to stress that **I don’t know what happened** , but absent a smoking gun that’s the most likely scenario to me. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/191 "2024-04-17T21:43:08Z")
In your suggested scenario, I’d expect an airtight alibi would be established. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/192 "2024-04-17T22:59:24Z")
> [@DKW](#): > > Exactly how would hiring a professional killer be outrageously farfetched, not make him legally or morally culpable for murder, or not be possible? A professional killer would be in and out, no muss no fuss. Multiple stabbings, plus pulling her head back and slitting her throat, are marks of a crime of passion. You have to have a lot of anger for that. If I understand your question. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/193 "2024-04-17T23:03:40Z")
Conceivably it might have been a professional instructed not to make it _look_ like a professional job, since that would lead to questions like “what wealthy person might have had motive to arrange this?” I forget, did the defense have any specific theory of who actually did do it, or was it just “Must have been some random psycho”? ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/194 "2024-04-17T23:10:10Z")
> [@DKW](#): > > Exactly how would hiring a professional killer be outrageously farfetched, not make him legally or morally culpable for murder, or not be possible? Because the murder has all the signs of a crime of passion. A professional would have either been a quick shooting, or would have staged a break-in, or robbery. That, and an air-tight alibi. > [@](#): > > I’d like to stress that **I don’t know what happened** , but absent a smoking gun that’s the most likely scenario to me. Really, the most likely scenario is that a man with a record of physically abusing his wife and had anger issues hired someone to stab her and slice her throat, and stab Ron Goldman to boot? The most likely scenario to me is that OJ got angry once again, and flipped out, left a bloody trail, but then the investigators and crime lab bungled the evidence and the prosecution made some more blunders and a jury primed by the LA Police history of racism was was willing to play the race game. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/195 "2024-04-17T23:11:21Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > I forget, did the defense have any specific theory of who actually did do it, or was it just “Must have been some random psycho”? Obviously it was some enraged golf player. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/196 "2024-04-18T02:36:00Z")
IIRC, authorities found a lot of blood evidence at OJ house. In the foyer, in the master bedroom, in the master bathroom, etc. That’s as close to a “smoking gun” as you can get under the circumstances. Yet the authorites did not issue an arrest warrant until 5 days after the murders. Why did they let a suspected double murderer roam the street for five days? But FTR, I still think he did it. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/197 "2024-04-18T02:42:48Z")
OJ’s days of running through airports has ended. He is one of the greatest running backs that ever played. His record setting productivity ended after multiple knee injuries. I only saw him play at the end of his career. His life and actions after football is terrible. It’s a tragic story for everyone involved. Link [Before murder charges tarnished his legacy, O.J. Simpson was one of the NFL's greatest running backs | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/oj-simpson-bills-49ers-05aa065f12198844cd5a284774adf0a0) > [@](#): > > The Pro Football Hall of Fame issued a statement attributed to its President Jim Porter that said: “O.J. Simpson was the first player to reach a rushing mark many thought could not be attained in a 14-game season when he topped 2,000 yards. His on-field contributions will be preserved in the Hall’s archives in Canton, Ohio.” ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/198 "2024-04-19T00:14:30Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > I forget, did the defense have any specific theory of who actually did do it, or was it just “Must have been some random psycho”? They tried to pin it on drug dealers. IIRC, they referred to Nicole’s slashed throat as a “Colombian necklace,” the implication being she had somehow stiffed “the Cartel.” ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/199 "2024-04-19T00:52:58Z")
> [@DKW](#): > > Exactly how would hiring a professional killer be outrageously farfetched… Because, for you to be correct, then that alleged killer left absolutely no physical evidence, such as DNA, at the scene, yet managed to leave lots of physical evidence, such as DNA, hair, and footprints, which all matched OJ Simpson. That professional killer was so good, in fact, that he or she even managed to track that OJ evidence to OJ’s car, clothes, and home. Again, without leaving _any_ evidence of _their_ presence. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/200 "2024-04-19T05:20:10Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Yet the authorites did not issue an arrest warrant until 5 days after the murders. Why did they let a suspected double murderer roam the street for five days? I think it mostly had to do with testing all of the blood samples and the DA’s office being overcautious. The autopsies on Nicole and Ron weren’t performed until June 14th which was more than a full day after they were murdered on the night of the 12th. So it took that long to collect samples of their blood. They already had a blood sample from OJ. Being that OJ was a celebrity and the case was snowballing into a media frenzy, the DA’s office wanted to minimize the chances of a fuck up when they charged him, so instead of doing quicker standard blood tests, they did some initial DNA testing which took from the 14th to late on the 15th to complete. The DA’s office took the 16th discus the case amongst themselves, make sure they had their bases covered, plan the logistics for the next day, etc. So on the morning of the 17th, the office notified Shapiro that OJ would be expected to turn himself in that morning. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/201 "2024-04-19T20:51:30Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Being that OJ was a celebrity and the case was snowballing into a media frenzy, the DA’s office wanted to minimize the chances of a fuck up when they charged him, This. They were collecting evidence first because they knew he was a celebrity getting massive media attention, and because the murders looked to be crime of passion, i.e. targeted, not random. They wouldn’t expect OJ to just start offing everyone he came in contact with. Unlike other family murder situations we have seen recently where the killer hits multiple family members at multiple sites. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/202 "2024-04-20T00:30:54Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > They tried to pin it on drug dealers. IIRC, they referred to Nicole’s slashed throat as a “Colombian necklace,” the implication being she had somehow stiffed “the Cartel.” Actually, it was a friend of Nicole’s who apparently had a drug problem that they said had the cartel connection. Nicole was mistaken identify. Yeah, right. Also, the Colombian necklace (necktie, IIRC) was (spoilered for the faint of heart): when the neck is slit and the tongue is pulled down and through the hole in the neck. Damn, the details one remembers… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157.md?page=11)