# OJ Simpson has died **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** celebrity-death\ **Created:** [April 11, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157 "2024-04-11T14:58:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/61 "2024-04-11T17:37:33Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > That was probably _OJ: Made in America_ ? > > One of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen. Essential viewing for anyone remotely interested in the case, or the man. Yes, thank you, that was it. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/62 "2024-04-11T17:39:18Z")
Never mind. 🙂 Sick jokes about the victims are the only ones I have, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/63 "2024-04-11T17:41:35Z")
Thanks for deleting that. I only got to the first one, and I did not like it. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/64 "2024-04-11T17:41:49Z")
Vincent Bugliosi (known best for being the prosecutor in the Charles Manson case, but also a true crime author) wrote a pretty good read on the evidence and, his estimation, the mistakes made by the judge and prosecutors. > **[Outrage: The Five Reasons Why O.J. Simpson Got Away wit…](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/792549.Outrage)** > > "Provocative and entertaining…A powerful and damning di… ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/65 "2024-04-11T17:45:35Z")
Yes, even I have pangs of conscience occasionally. 😔 ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/66 "2024-04-11T17:51:29Z")
Upvoted. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/67 "2024-04-11T17:56:46Z")
Yep. I was a Houston Rockets fan watching that NBA finals game in the most unusual way. I was in London, which is 6 hours ahead of my time, so it was really late/early AM. Then, the only way to watch the game at our hotel was on a “preview” type channel that featured about 8 different feeds of random channels displayed in separate small boxes. The NBA game was one of those small feeds. No sound. Then that small feed goes picture in picture with the white Bronco and all of us wondering wtf is going on… ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/68 "2024-04-11T18:03:07Z")
That car chase must have been on the most channels of anything ever. Not only was it on all the news channels and networks, it was also on at least ESPN, not sure about other sports channels. What other broadcast ever showed up on such a wide variety of outlets? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/69 "2024-04-11T18:03:12Z")
“The deputy testified last week that Simpson slammed a phone down, hit his fist against the counter and shouted two comments at Grier during his Nov. 13 visit to Men’s Central Jail. Stuart said Simpson appeared to be crying and ‘quite upset,’ and that Grier responded to Simpson in a 'very loud and raised voice.” Was he telling him that it’s alright to cry? ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/70 "2024-04-11T18:12:30Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > You should never say bad things about the dead, you should only say good . . . OJ is dead. Good. > > Credit to Bette Davis You beat me to it. Good. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/71 "2024-04-11T18:42:01Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Was he telling him that it’s alright to cry? The Bugliosi book I mentioned earlier references an interview that the deputy made. Purportedly, Simpson yelled out “I didn’t mean to do it! I’m sorry!” And Grier responded with “OJ you gotta come clean! You got to tell somebody!” > **[Outrage: The Five Reasons Why O. J. Simpson Got Away with Murder](https://books.google.com/books?id=lMWGu1ex4_YC&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=deputy%2Bjeff%2Bstuart%2Brosey%2Bgrier&source=bl&ots=3TKbDrG5mY&sig=ACfU3U3fEQvo9EgUGPsbh666WflPkWQvLA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiY78Gk5LqFAxVAmLAFHVszDyY4ChDoAXoECAoQAg#v=onepage&q=deputy%20jeff%20stuart%20rosey%20grier&f=false)** > > "Provocative and entertaining…A powerful and damning diatribe on Simpson’s acquittal." —People Here is the account of the O. J. Simpson case that no one dared to write, that no one else could write. In this #1 New York Times bestseller, Vincent... ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/72 "2024-04-11T18:51:53Z")
OJ was a great football player. If that was his only claim to celebrity, it would have been fine. OJ starred in the long-running Hertz ad. OJ turned actor. If you want to fondly recall his acting career, knock yourself out. OJ was an abusive, angry, jealous husband. He should have faced consequences for that. Instead, he was fawned over by the cops and dismissed the accusations. That lead to OJ killing his wife Nicole, and then Ron Goldman. Then the “trial of the century” that made a mockery of jurisprudence, and an acquittal based on reverse racism. (Yeah, Furman was a racist, but he didn’t plant evidence or otherwise tamper with the case.) Then his fame revolved around “searching for the real killer”, and writing a book about how he did it (“If I did it”). Finally, we got to see a whole new round of legal trouble for him, as he and some friends broke into a hotel room and threatened some men over what OJ claimed was his own property. I feel sorry for his family, especially his kids. They either had to live knowing their father was an abusive fuck who killed their mother/ stepmother, or else they believe he was wrongly accused and the real killer for away with it. Neither prospect is a fate I’d want. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/73 "2024-04-11T19:26:31Z")
> **Hid hijack of thread** > > > [@Irishman](#): > > > > That lead to OJ killing his wife Nicole, and then Ron Goldman. Then the “trial of the century” that made a mockery of jurisprudence, and an acquittal based on reverse racism. > > The acquittal was based on the police and prosecution screwing up multiple times. Every piece of evidence had a hole in it. It is the very definition of reasonable doubt. The verdict was correct, given the evidence. > > Was he guilty? Probably, but it wasn’t proven to a legal standard. > > > [@Irishman](#): > > > > (Yeah, Furman was a racist, but he didn’t plant evidence or otherwise tamper with the case.) > > It isn’t the racism that’s important. It’s the fact that he lied about it under oath. This demonstrates that he was willing to present false testimony to help the prosecution. All his testimony becomes questionable. > > And the fact is, he was shown to have falsified probablr cause in other cases. What makes you so certain that he didn’t falsify the evidence in this case? > > Note, it isn’t a case of a racist cop falsifying evidence to frame an innocent black person, it’s a case of a maverick falsifying evidence to help the prosecution when they are already sure he did it. Something that he definitely did on multiple occasions. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/74 "2024-04-11T19:32:24Z")
i read this. it is a good book for the case and rather informative on our legal system. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/75 "2024-04-11T19:33:04Z")
I mean I remember seeing news footage of 9/11 on MTV, basically a lot of networks replaced their normal programming with feeds from their parent news stations or local affiliates. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/76 "2024-04-11T20:12:07Z")
For me, the Bronco chase was the “almost never” in “[What is extremely common in TV or movies but almost never happens in real life?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-extremely-common-in-tv-or-movies-but-almost-never-happens-in-real-life/932311/3531)” I was with a group of friends at one of their houses, when another one called to tell us “Turn on the TV…” An acquaintance I see frequently is friends with Bill Dear, a private investigator who writes books about OJ being innocent. I don’t remember what his arguments are, and I don’t care to be dragged through them again, so hopefully it won’t come up. > **[William Dear (detective)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dear_(detective))** > > William C. Dear (born August, 1937) is a Dallas-based private investigator. > Dear owns the firm William C. Dear & Associates. His notable cases include the original "steam tunnel incident" involving James Dallas Egbert III, the murder of millionaire businessman Dean Milo in 1980, the exhumation of Lee Harvey Oswald in 1981 and the Glen Courson murder case in 1986. > Television work includes being an investigator on Alien Autopsy, a 1995 Fox Television program about an autopsy supposedly carried ou... ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/77 "2024-04-11T20:35:18Z")
I’m only sorry Norm MacDonald isn’t around to see this. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2SSVIg4Noqc/maxresdefault.jpg "Norm Macdonald Constant Shitting on OJ Simpson") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SSVIg4Noqc) ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/78 "2024-04-11T20:42:19Z")
> **[O.J. Simpson Allowed To Remain Living After Coffin Doesn’t Fit](https://www.theonion.com/o-j-simpson-allowed-to-remain-living-after-coffin-does-1851403804)** > > LAS VEGAS—With onlookers gasping as the former football star made a big show of being too big for the casket, O.J. Simpson was reportedly allowed to remain alive Thursday after his coffin didn’t fit. “If the coffin doesn’t fit, you must let him live... ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/79 "2024-04-11T20:50:11Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > I’m only sorry Norm MacDonald isn’t around to see this. Random weird fact: Norm MacDonald was golf/poker buddies with Kato Kaelin for a while… ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157/80 "2024-04-11T20:55:21Z")
Thanks! I was alluding to this: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y52bs0aX6v8/hqdefault.jpg "Its alright to cry.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y52bs0aX6v8) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-has-died/1000157.md?page=5)