# OJ Simpson-  when does the judge's decision come?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 4, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604 "2013-07-04T01:40:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/1 "2013-07-04T01:40:47Z")

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What happened with OJ? Last I read he was (supposedly) confidently preparing to be released in a day or two after the hearing.

How long can the judge wait to deliver her decision? Is the delay an indication that OJ’s bid has failed?  
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/2 "2013-07-04T02:49:12Z")

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Linky-link-link?

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/3 "2013-07-04T02:59:58Z")

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??

It was in the news for weeks about two months ago.

Randomly selected googlenews link:

> **[OJ Simpson testifies in Las Vegas court in bid for new robbery-kidnap trial](https://www.startribune.com/oj-simpson-testifies-in-bid-for-new-vegas-trial/207534901/)**
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> O.J. Simpson, a former star athlete who once lived for the spotlight, was back on stage telling the grim story of the Las Vegas afternoon in 2007 that sent him to prison.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/4 "2013-07-04T03:01:25Z")

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> **[Imprisoned O.J. Simpson testifies in bid for new trial | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/justice/oj-simpson-appeal)**
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> O.J. Simpson is testifying Wednesday in his effort to get a new trial on robbery, assault and kidnapping charges.

Best link I found. Can’t find anything about a decision.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/5 "2013-07-04T05:12:21Z")

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Because there hasn’t been one yet.  
That’s why I’m asking legal eagles: How long can the judge wait to deliver her decision? Is the delay an indication that OJ’s bid has failed?

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/6 "2013-07-04T07:36:03Z")

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If I had to guess, I’d say that the longer the delay, the more likely it is that OJ wins his argument.

I don’t think any judge wants to be the one responsible for letting OJ out so if there is a way to deny the new trial and have it stand up to appellate review, I think the judge hearing the case would have jumped on it by now. The fact the he hasn’t implies that at least an arguable case for a new trial was made and now what they’re doing is seeing is if they have any other options.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/7 "2013-07-04T12:29:43Z")

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It seems likely that he’ll get a retrial just like his conspirator C.J. Stewart. They committed the same crime. It seems reasonable they should get treated the same way. Hopefully he’ll get a similar plea deal too.

OJ is a broken man regardless. He’s run into some tax issues while in prison. iirc the IRS took his house in Florida. He won’t be returning to much of a life outside prison.

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> Of the five men who went with Simpson to the room, four pleaded guilty to reduced charges in exchange for their testimony at trial, but Clarence “C.J.” Stewart faced a jury conviction alongside Simpson.
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> Stewart later won a court order for a new trial. In 2011, Stewart was sentenced to three years’ probation after entering an Alford plea to robbery and conspiracy to commit robbery, meaning he didn’t admit guilt but acknowledged that prosecutors could prove their case, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported then.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/8 "2013-07-04T13:32:27Z")

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He deserves another trial. In his first one the judge unfairly took it into her own hands to punish him for past deeds and give him the maximum sentence even though he just wanted his stuff back. A gross mishandling of the justice system.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/9 "2013-07-26T01:49:08Z")

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“O.J. Simpson goes before a Nevada parole panel Thursday to plead for leniency in his 2008 kidnapping and robbery case, but even a favorable decision won’t spring the former football star from prison.”  
[http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083\_162-57595489-504083/o.j-simpson-update-former-nfl-star-to-plead-for-leniency-in-nevada-parole-hearing/](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57595489-504083/o.j-simpson-update-former-nfl-star-to-plead-for-leniency-in-nevada-parole-hearing/)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/10 "2013-07-26T03:29:24Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> He deserves another trial. In his first one the judge unfairly took it into her own hands to punish him for past deeds and give him the maximum sentence even though he just wanted his stuff back. A gross mishandling of the justice system.

Your post is a gross mischaracterization of Mr. Simpson’s actions.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/11 "2013-07-26T08:08:01Z")

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I would not read anything into the delay. OJ raised multiple issues in his hearing, and the Judge is going to have to address each issue in her opinion.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/12 "2013-07-26T13:55:37Z")

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There are two separate things going on now: 1. parole board hearing. 2. trial about incompetence of counsel.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/13 "2013-07-26T14:02:01Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> In his first one the judge unfairly took it into her own hands to punish him for past deeds and give him the maximum sentence even though he just wanted his stuff back.

I don’t think patiently waiting at home and wishing for a return of sold items is what landed Mr. Simpson in prison on a felony conviction.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/14 "2013-07-26T16:23:58Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> He deserves another trial. In his first one the judge unfairly took it into her own hands to punish him for past deeds and give him the maximum sentence even though he just wanted his stuff back. A gross mishandling of the justice system.

Yeah, that judge was way out of line. All OJ did was to commit armed robbery and kidnapping. Anything more than a 30-day suspended sentence is too harsh :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/15 "2013-07-26T17:42:41Z")

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On March 8, 2013 my attorney presented a motion to have my ex held in contempt of the divorce decree.

On May 13, 2013 there was a trial. The judge requested written briefs.

The judge still hasn’t issued his ruling.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/16 "2013-07-26T20:38:18Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> He deserves another trial. In his first one the judge unfairly took it into her own hands to punish him for past deeds and give him the maximum sentence even though he just wanted his stuff back. A gross mishandling of the justice system.

Were you, uhm, on the jury in Los Angeles? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/17 "2013-07-26T21:13:32Z")

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[OJ’s attorney apparently did fuck up pretty badly according to this article.](http://news.lalate.com/2013/07/25/oj-simpson-free-new-trial-looms-juice-gets-parole-hearing-today/) And if the part about the plea deal is true, he would already be out of prison had he known of it and agreed to it.

Considering the fact that the one other defendant who actually went to jail with OJ was in fact granted a new trial, this looks more and more like stalling on the part of the trial court.

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/18 "2013-07-26T21:19:48Z")

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late edit [Clarence Stewart’s conviction was overturned for different reasons though](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/11/oj-simpson-back-in-court-_n_3259641.html)

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/19 "2013-07-26T22:12:00Z")

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I wish to hell some civic-minded fellow convict would do a Jeffrey Dahmer on him and save the taxpayers another shitload of money. :mad:

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-simpson-when-does-the-judges-decision-come/662604/20 "2013-10-11T08:40:24Z")

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[update:](http://www.leaderpost.com/news/world/Nearly+months+later+Nevada+judge+says+shes+working+Simpson+trial/9023489/story.html)

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> LAS VEGAS, Nev. - The Nevada judge who will decide whether O.J. Simpson gets a new trial in a botched confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers indicated Thursday that she’s still working on her ruling.
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> Judge Linda Marie Bell said in a statement issued through a court spokeswoman that the case is complicated, the file is thick, and she is addressing 22 claims raised by prosecutors and Simpson’s lawyers.

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