# OJ sorta confesses (again) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 9, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293 "2018-03-09T18:25:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/1 "2018-03-09T18:25:01Z")
Fox on Sunday is airing [a two-hour special](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/03/08/o-j-simpson-his-hypothetical-murders-everything-covered-blood/408393002/), _OJ: The Lost Confession_. a repackaged version of a never-aired 2006 interview with publisher Judith Regan, in which he details a “hypothetical” explanation for the murders of ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman in 1994. … > [@](#): > > An unedited portion of the special — which also features a panel discussion with Regan and legal experts, including prosecutor Christopher Darden — was screened for journalists Thursday, including roughly 45 minutes of the interview. Simpson, who was acquitted of the grisly double homicide, is jocular and easygoing throughout most of his session, laughing as he recalls how Brown badgered him to get married and recounting his attempts to “get some” (from her and other women) after they had split. > > He even plays the sympathy card for an incident in 1989, when he was convicted of spousal abuse after beating Brown so severely that she required hospital treatment. > > “The one thing that hurts me as much as anything in this — aside from being considered a murderer — is being a batterer,” Simpson says. “Somehow, I came out of all of that because of that night as the poster boy of an abuser.” Rough, isn’t it, OJ? You beat your wife up, put her in hospital, and then they call you the bad guy? Unbelievable! OJ goes on to talk about how he and some guy called Charlie (probably not real) were at the murder scene, how he confronted Nicole and her boyfriend, blacked out and came to over the dead bodies with blood everywhere. Some things in this world I’m unsure of but of this I am certain: OJ is a killer and a complete narcissist. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/2 "2018-03-09T19:10:03Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > …OJ goes on to talk about how he and some guy called Charlie (probably not real) were at the murder scene, how he confronted Nicole and her boyfriend, blacked out and came to over the dead bodies with blood everywhere. > > Some things in this world I’m unsure of but of this I am certain: OJ is a killer and a complete narcissist. He’s a real piece of shit, isn’t he? Poor me, the wife-beater. That said, if you haven’t looked at [the theory that his kid, Jason Simpson, did the murders](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/10892053/OJ-Simpson-was-he-innocent-all-along.html), you might find it interesting. Even if the main proponent, per the Telegraph, is a nutjob who, among other things, claims there was a second shooter at JFK, and he not only knows who, but has the bullet. I still think OJ was there at some point during the proceedings, if only to try and clean up the scene, but I’m not as positive now as I was 20 years ago that he did it. Thanks for the link. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/3 "2018-03-09T19:21:23Z")
I think he did it. And I think part of him _needs_ to tell. How he beat a murder charge. Maybe he even thinks it’s his ticket back to public renown, fame and fortune. I think before he goes to his grave, he’ll probably confess. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/4 "2018-03-09T19:22:44Z")
Why is this irredemable piece of shit given the time of day? I was SO hoping he’d get whacked in prison, but noooooooooooo! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/5 "2018-03-09T19:30:58Z")
I watched every minute of the trial that was televised (I was unemployed at the time), and I’m positive he did it. Not one molecule of doubt. He is scum. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/6 "2018-03-09T19:47:20Z")
I am under the impression that the “confession” is pretty much what he wrote in _If I Did It, Here’s What Happened_ - er, after Fred Goldman got the rights to the book as part of the settlement, it was retitled _If I Did It: Confessions of a Killer_. (On the cover, “If” appears inside of the “I” and is so small and colored so closely to the I that you have a hard time seeing it.) > [@aldiboronti](#): > > OJ goes on to talk about how he and some guy called Charlie (probably not real) were at the murder scene, how he confronted Nicole and her boyfriend, blacked out and came to over the dead bodies with blood everywhere. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there really was a “Charlie.” Remember, not only was OJ not alone in the Vegas “robbery” that got him into prison, but his accomplices were the only ones with guns. Another thing I remember about the book; when somebody asked Goldman how Simpson was supposed to raise 32 million dollars, he replied, “He can write another book” - and when Simpson does, Goldman throws a fit. What did he expect him to write about? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/7 "2018-03-10T00:00:13Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > He’s a real piece of shit, isn’t he? Poor me, the wife-beater. > > That said, if you haven’t looked at [the theory that his kid, Jason Simpson, did the murders](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/10892053/OJ-Simpson-was-he-innocent-all-along.html), you might find it interesting. Even if the main proponent, per the Telegraph, is a nutjob who, among other things, claims there was a second shooter at JFK, and he not only knows who, but has the bullet. > > I still think OJ was there at some point during the proceedings, if only to try and clean up the scene, but I’m not as positive now as I was 20 years ago that he did it. > > Thanks for the link. This is absurd. The evidence that OJ did it is pretty overwhelming. Just off the top of my head: He can’t account for where he was during the time the crime occurred; Shoe prints matching his shoe size and type were found at the scene; Blood from the scene was found on his clothes; A glove from the scene was found outside his home; He was seen by at least one person driving erratically away from the scene; He was late being picked up by a limo driver around the time of the murders, and behaved erratically when he did show up; He had a deep cut on his hand when he was interviewed by police a few days later; Some of his hairs were found in the knit cap left at the scene, which presumably was worn by the killer; A prison guard heard OJ confess to Rosie Grier when he was visiting OJ in jail… And then there’s something about a DNA match (one of the biggest things missed in the trial is that, if the DNA analysis is done via a tainted sample, it won’t produce any match, as opposed to a false positive). ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/8 "2018-03-10T00:34:58Z")
Frankly, I never want to hear any more about this piece of shit until he’s six feet under, and even then no more than a simple notice of that occurring. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/9 "2018-03-10T00:41:17Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there really was a “Charlie.” Remember, not only was OJ not alone in the Vegas “robbery” that got him into prison, but his accomplices were the only ones with guns. Even considering there was no credible evidence at the murder scene leading to a second suspect and “Charlie” sounds like a completely transparent invention on OJs part intended to lessen the psychological load of what he knows everyone else knows he did? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/10 "2018-03-10T01:36:09Z")
I’m pretty sure he didn’t do it. Why is everyone always giving OJ such a hard time? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/11 "2018-03-10T01:47:46Z")
I loved the way Vincent Bugliosi blasted the incompetent prosecution team and judge in his \*\*\*Playboy \*\*\*articles and elsewhere. Had been prosecuting the case, no way Simpson would have walked out of that courtroom a free man. That’s assuming we live in a rational world, of course. When you have a jury whose collective IQ is that of a peanut, anything is possible. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/12 "2018-03-10T02:27:10Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I loved the way Vincent Bugliosi blasted the incompetent prosecution team and judge in his \*\*\*Playboy \*\*\*articles and elsewhere. Had been prosecuting the case, no way Simpson would have walked out of that courtroom a free man. > > That’s assuming we live in a rational world, of course. When you have a jury whose collective IQ is that of a peanut, anything is possible. It wasn’t that they were stupid. A lot of the evidence was kept from the jury. Here’s a good [summary](http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/verdict/jury_didnt_see/). It will blow your mind how much the TV audience knew that the jury never knew. Here’s another good [discussion](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oj/themes/jury.html). ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/13 "2018-03-10T04:48:45Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > This is absurd. The evidence that OJ did it is pretty overwhelming. Just off the top of my head: > > He can’t account for where he was during the time the crime occurred; > > Shoe prints matching his shoe size and type were found at the scene; > > Blood from the scene was found on his clothes; > > A glove from the scene was found outside his home; > > He was seen by at least one person driving erratically away from the scene; > > He was late being picked up by a limo driver around the time of the murders, and behaved erratically when he did show up; > > He had a deep cut on his hand when he was interviewed by police a few days later; > > Some of his hairs were found in the knit cap left at the scene, which presumably was worn by the killer; > > A prison guard heard OJ confess to Rosie Grier when he was visiting OJ in jail… > > And then there’s something about a DNA match (one of the biggest things missed in the trial is that, if the DNA analysis is done via a tainted sample, it won’t produce any match, as opposed to a false positive). The vast majority of the evidence you cite, is also explained by him being there immediately afterwards, and fighting with his kid. I’m not saying at all that he wasn’t there, or had nothing to do with it. I’m just saying that I think there’s a non-trivial possibility his kid may have been the one to actually kill them, and that Dad was on the scene either at the same time, or pretty soon afterwards. A 6’4" schizophrenic professional chef with a history of violence, and a documented hatred of Nicole Brown, had a lot of motive to do the killing too, and enough physical power and knife skills to account for the wounds and the disposition of the bodies. The confession is a biggie though, if true. Hard to see why OJ would confess to Rosie if he didn’t do it. And I’m not familiar with exactly how close his DNA matched the samples from the scene. Other than he was definitely there. Would his masculine child have a close enough set of alleles to match the samples, or were the samples good enough to definitely exclude Jason Simpson? Did Jason’s blood match any of the other blood samples at the scene? Did anyone check? As I remember it, though I’ve not read the guy’s book, Jason wasn’t definitively excluded as a suspect. Mainly because there was just so damn much evidence pointing to O.J. Anyway, thanks for the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/14 "2018-03-10T04:52:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It wasn’t that they were stupid. A lot of the evidence was kept from the jury. Here’s a good [summary](http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/verdict/jury_didnt_see/). It will blow your mind how much the TV audience knew that the jury never knew. > > Here’s another good [discussion](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oj/themes/jury.html). Garcetti lost that case in venue selection. Try it near Brentwood, and the Juice is still in jail. Mike Kinsley, at the time, had a pretty good article in either Slate or Harpers, talking about capital punishment and how O.J. never had a shot at seeing the (at the time) gas chamber. Were the stories ever proven that members of the jury were going to throw O.J. and his defense team a party after the trial? There were a few rumors about such a thing in local (S.F.) talk radio around the time of the trial. My minor touch with this case is dealing with Robert Kardashian while the chase was going on. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/15 "2018-03-10T08:54:39Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > A 6’4" schizophrenic professional chef with a history of violence, and a documented hatred of Nicole Brown, had a lot of motive to do the killing too, and enough physical power and knife skills to account for the wounds and the disposition of the bodies. You realize you could say almost the exact same thing about OJ, right? 6’2" OJ with a documented history of violence against Nicole, motivated by jealously, physically powerful. And unless the LAPD considers every nearby chef a suspect whenever there is a stabbing, why would Jason and his chef “knife skills” even begin to enter into the picture? That and, you know, no evidence whatsoever of Jason being there. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/16 "2018-03-10T10:40:44Z")
One thing that has always bugged me about the crime scene is the bloody pronated footprints leading away from the gate. OJ’s feet, like most athletes I believe, point straight ahead when he walks or runs ([Cite](https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/Sz9MJH0B_NvhngIScKekuw--~B/aD0zMzQ2O3c9MjI0MTtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2016-03-04/124878d0-e23d-11e5-948f-8f606409beef_18.jpg), [Cite](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fb/1b/9f/fb1b9ff8b7cf0fb1589ef6afadb10c43.jpg), [Cite](https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/Sz9MJH0B_NvhngIScKekuw--~B/aD0zMzQ2O3c9MjI0MTtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2016-03-04/124878d0-e23d-11e5-948f-8f606409beef_18.jpg)), but most of the footprints I saw were pronated. [Cite](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/451d12a77ba5c5236470f341f8f2694831703b2d/c=0-1087-2479-2951&r=x1767&c=2352x1764/local/-/media/2016/06/01/USATODAY/usatsports/B9322396358Z.1_20160601163844_000_G6SEI4RIJ.1-0.jpg) Also, one would think that after such horrendous wounding of both Nicole and Ron Goldman, OJ would have been covered head to toe in blood and the interior of his car would be too. Yet there were only small smudges of it here and there on the headliner, the back of the headrests and so forth…at least that’s all there were before more was planted some three weeks after the car reached the impoundment lot. The blood stains I saw in the car looked more like something that could have been left by the police feeling around inside the car after having left the crime scene where they got blood on vinyl gloves they hadn’t taken off in their haste to get to OJ’s place. Also, OJ didn’t have a deep wound to his hand, it was only a small cut over one knuckle. [Cite](https://ojsimpson.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/OJ-Simpson-Cut-Finger-Closeup-June-13-1994.jpg) I’ve felt it possible ever since the crimes were committed that OJ was covering for someone, and very possibly his son. Either that or a friend who got carried away in his support of OJ. IIRC, the police theory was that Nicole was killed first and then Goldman, who arrived about the same time or shortly after. In my mind it’s possible (and I reiterate, ‘possible’, as opposed to likely) that Ron Goldman came up first and either confronted them or was confronted by them and whoever was with OJ killed him and then Nicole when she came out to see what was going on. But the biggest thing to me is simply the lack of huge amounts of blood in OJ’s car. No evidence was uncovered at the scene to indicate he disrobed before getting into his car, an action which I would think would have left large telltale bloody smudges on the sidewalk or wherever he took his clothes off before getting into his car, and even then he’d still have lots of wet blood on his hands. Why wasn’t the steering wheel and gear shift covered in blood then? Plus, OJ was dressed when the driver who had arrived to take him to the airport watched him walk from where he parked his car to his front door. So long story short, I think OJ was there but not the killer. Maybe his son, maybe a friend, maybe a hired thug who got carried away or attacked by Goldman, who knows? But it just doesn’t add up to me that OJ did the actual killings. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/17 "2018-03-10T10:51:11Z")
I should also say that on the other hand, it’s hard to figure a motive other than guilt for the slow speed Bronco chase and/or for the money and disguise he had with him at the time, or for the letter he wrote that Robert Kardashian read. So who knows? It’s a perplexion. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/18 "2018-03-10T13:48:44Z")
For those who are 100% certain of his guilt I can only say that there are relatively few things about which I would make that claim; particularly about an event in which every scrap of my knowledge has come from the media. That said, I think he did it too. Has there ever been an explanation of why the famous glove did not fit? mmm ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/19 "2018-03-10T13:59:55Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > Has there ever been an explanation of why the famous glove did not fit? Because he was already wearing a latex glove when he tried it on. Should have been perfectly obvious to the Prosecution idiots before they asked him to do it. Same reason the bra didn’t fit Sue Ellen Mischke when she tried it on—she was already wearing a pullover. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293/20 "2018-03-10T14:02:24Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > … > Has there ever been an explanation of why the famous glove did not fit? > … Give. Me. A. Break. To answer your question: yes, there have been plenty of explanations. I watched that scene live on TV. I saw him “pretend” the glove didn’t fit. He scrunched up his hand into a fist and then mock-struggled to get his hand into it. Also, O.J. had on a LATEX glove when he pretended to try to pull the glove on. The glove had been soaked in blood and then frozen and unfrozen several times. Have you ever tried to put on a leather glove that has been soaked in, say, melted snow, and then dried? Another theory was that O.J. took arthritis medication and had been off it, so his hands were swollen. There are many perfectly credible explanations. And then grandstander Johnny Cochran created the “If the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit!” nursery rhyme. Lance Ito, the judge, loved being an instant celebrity and played to the cameras. Geez, the whole thing was a fucking circus. O.J. did it. No question. [Partially ninja’d.] [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oj-sorta-confesses-again/810293.md?page=2)