# OK Alabama **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 12, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253 "2017-12-12T02:13:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/61 "2017-12-12T17:45:29Z")
Sah! Will follow Just to clarify **MrDibble** lurid sex fantasies about me penetrating a Cactaceae plant, followed by **Budget Player Cadet** sticking his head into the newly created orfice (some sort of weird bukkake?) is fine? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/62 "2017-12-12T17:45:54Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > So true. Non-southerners don’t understand that calling southerners names like racist won’t help. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > If one considers that the goal is to get them to stop BEING racist, one wonders what WILL help. Exactly. Being nice to them doesn’t help. Ignoring them doesn’t help. Trying to educate them about the reasons they shouldn’t do racist things doesn’t help. Shooting them is illegal and wouldn’t help. They have not reasoned themselves into the position they are in but have arrived there by dint of petty-mindedness, hatred and fear, and will not be persuaded out of it by any means. At least pointing out their racism has the virtue of being an honest approach. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/63 "2017-12-12T17:46:11Z")
Hell, AK, I can’t help but keep chuckling about how I intimated the entire state of Alabama was in, or descended from, Klan members… but what got some people upset is calling a man who hits on 14yo’s a “pedophile”. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/64 "2017-12-12T17:51:00Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > If one considers that the goal is to get them to stop BEING racist, one wonders what WILL help. Have you tried being nice to them? That seems to be the main advice. Be nice to them, and they’ll stop being racist, they are only racist because you (and I do mean you, personally, kaylasdad99, racism is all your fault, because you weren’t nice to a not-yet-racist once.) aren’t nice enough to them. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/65 "2017-12-12T17:56:50Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > My prediction, Moore wins 51-49. Mine: Moore 51 Jones 40 Others 9 Alabama thinking is in a very odd universe. It would have been Strange 62 Jones 36 Others 2 -if Strange had won the primary. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/66 "2017-12-12T18:16:19Z")
From [AL.com](http://AL.com) re: Moore vs Jones vs trump. _"The president is more popular than either candidate with a 55 percent/40 percent favorable/unfavorable rating…_ Got to love Alabamians. 55% of them see trump favorably? That speaks volumes. > **[Alabama Senate race 2017: Moore vs. Jones final polls](https://www.al.com/news/2017/12/alabama_senate_race_2017_roy_m_1.html)** > > Election day in Alabama is Dec. 12 and voters will be deciding between Republican Roy Moore and Democrat Doug Jones. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/67 "2017-12-12T18:18:42Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Nice try, morons. There is absolutely no evidence that Moore is a pedophile. But both of you are too stupid and too lazy to care about facts. But its okay that he was banned from the mall for creeping on girls there, right? ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/68 "2017-12-12T18:34:39Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Mine: > Moore 51 > Jones 40 > Others 9 > > Alabama thinking is in a very odd universe. > > It would have been > Strange 62 > Jones 36 > Others 2 > -if Strange had won the primary. And there’s the proof that Mr. Trump really IS playing 9-D chess. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/69 "2017-12-12T18:41:09Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > But on the other hand, plenty of evidence has emerged that he likes to molest (post pubescent!) teenage girls. Much better, right Flyer? Much, \*much \*better. No, flyer wants video’s. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/70 "2017-12-12T19:01:17Z")
I guess Alabama doesn’t have exit polls. Not that they’re accurate, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/71 "2017-12-12T19:12:36Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I guess Alabama doesn’t have exit polls. Not that they’re accurate, anyway. Sure they do. Whenever I meet someone from Alabama, I always ask why they exited. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/72 "2017-12-12T19:16:38Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > The accusations against Judge Moore (Fired) even if true di not show him to be a pedophile. He is a [Hebephile](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia). I really thought this was going to be a link to [this story](http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/11/politics/kayla-moore-roy-rally-alabama-senate/index.html). ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/73 "2017-12-12T19:22:10Z")
Then there’s this: > [@](#): > > Alabama is allowed to destroy digital voting records created at the polls during today’s U.S. Senate election after all. > > At 1:36 p.m. Monday, a Montgomery County Circuit Court judge issued an order directing Alabama election officials to preserve all digital ballot images created at polling places across the state today. > > But at 4:32 p.m. Monday, attorneys for Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill and Ed Packard, the state administrator of elections, filed an “emergency motion to stay” that order, which the state Supreme Court granted minutes after Merrill and Packard’s motion was filed. > > By granting the stay, the court effectively told the state that it does not in fact have to preserve the digital ballot images - essentially digitized versions of the paper ballots voters fill out at the voting booth - created today. > > The court will hold a hearing on Dec. 21 about whether to dismiss the case outright. By that point the state will have had ample time to destroy the digital ballot images legally under the stay… [Source](http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/in_final-hour_order_court_rule.html#incart_m-rpt-2) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/74 "2017-12-12T19:31:02Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I really thought this was going to be a link to [this story](http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/11/politics/kayla-moore-roy-rally-alabama-senate/index.html). I was gonna make a similar joke, but I just couldn’t bring myself to. I’m glad you stepped up to the plate. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/75 "2017-12-12T19:42:56Z")
He stoops to concur. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/76 "2017-12-12T19:48:18Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Fuck your “nice things” tone policing bullshit. > > Some homophobic cactusfucker comes at me after being called on his pedantry, your “nice things” can get crammed in the spongy, spoogy cactus hole \*he \*just fucked. Along with your stupid head. _You_ calling someone else homophobic is probably the most hypocritical thing I’ve ever seen on these boards, although the closest competition is your comments on race. People like you are the reason that otherwise sensible people end up voting for scumbags like Moore because, no matter how much they may despise who he is or what he’s done, they correctly recognise that he is a better person than you, and less dangerous than you would be were you ever to get power. You need to learn that, if you want anything close to your cause to ever succeed, you need to shut the fuck up and distance yourself from it as fast as humanly possible. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/77 "2017-12-12T19:56:00Z")
I mean… look. [How does this keep happening?](http://whnt.com/2016/09/29/what-did-alabamas-top-election-official-learn-from-monitoring-russian-election/) > [@](#): > > Alabama’s top election official, Secretary of State John Merrill, just returned from an election monitoring mission in Russia, where he says the process he observed was “free and fair,” though the overall report on the election came back less glowing. > > … > > “They gave us these sheets,” he says, holding up pieces of paper with a small red box at the bottom, “But we didn’t have to fax them in. What we did, we had a pen. An electronic pen. We were able to touch this box . . . it would automatically send the information that was recorded to the central reporting location and they could document it live throughout the day.” > > … > > Merrill is back home now, preparing for the general election. He doesn’t expect to get changes in place that quick, but he says he does eventually hope to implement lessons learned from his trip to Russia. So, a year+ ago, another GOPer just happened to be in Russia, noted their electronic notes system, said “we have to implement lessons learned”, now has digital voting… and yesterday he moved to have the digital votes erased. Lesson learned! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/78 "2017-12-12T20:13:52Z")
This is where in the scary movie you get that musical sound effect that suggests dark and dangerous foreshadowing. (…dun-dun-DUNH!..) Don’t go up those stairs! No! Don’t open that door, didn’t you hear the fucking music? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/79 "2017-12-12T20:13:53Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > People like you are the reason \ :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/80 "2017-12-12T20:21:31Z")
Slightly off topic, but to those who keep positing that the southern US is more racist than any other region, [this article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/04/28/the-most-racist-places-in-america-according-to-google/?utm_term=.60f8f9831324)and map based on Google data shows a different story: > [@](#): > > Interestingly, on the map above the most concentrated cluster of racist searches happened not in the South, but rather along the spine of the Appalachians running from Georgia all the way up to New York and southern Vermont. Other hotbeds of racist searches appear in areas of the Gulf Coast, Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, and a large portion of Ohio. But the searches get rarer the further West you go. West of Texas, no region falls into the “much more than average” category. Racism is tough to measure, and Google’s methodology is not air tight. It’s based on web searches and only reflects racism against blacks. Regions in the west may show more racism if Hispanics or Native Americans were included, for instance. For instance, by counting the number of known hate groups in each state, [this article](https://thetab.com/us/2017/08/15/these-five-states-have-the-most-hate-groups-in-the-us-70750)determines the top 5 most racist states are California, Florida, Texas, New York and Pennsylvania. So, not surprisingly, there are more hate groups in states with the largest populations. Put another way, these 5 states make up about a third of the US population and house about a third of US hate groups. Racism is everywhere people are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253.md?page=5)