# OK Alabama

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 12, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253 "2017-12-12T02:13:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/121 "2017-12-13T01:03:28Z")

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… assumes facts not introduced into evidence, 'Luci.

1. That McConnell knows what the “right thing” is
2. That he will attempt to do it
3. That he will be successful in doing it

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/122 "2017-12-13T01:10:49Z")

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This could just be speculation on my part, but early exit polls show only 65% of Alabama voters were white. 30% were black, 3% latino and 2% other races.

Seeing how blacks generally vote 90% democratic, that would mean Jones starts at 27% of the electorate from the black vote. He will probably win 2/3 of the other 5% of non-whites, pushing him to 30% of the electorate just on the minority vote.

If Jones can win 31% of the white vote in Alabama, that gives him 51% of the total vote. Some polls before today showed Jones winning 40% of the white vote in Alabama.

Lets hope he makes it.

#cautiouslyoptimistic

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/123 "2017-12-13T01:15:36Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> At least you’ve shown you can understand words, now let’s see if you can understand concepts. What someone has done - no matter how reprehensible - has no effect on the validity of their political opinions, or any other opinions for that matter.
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> Anarchism is a far more dangerous philosophy than any mainstream political view. _Because_, at least in part, anarchism would require that people could not band together to prevent someone fucking children, because having a police force or a legal system would be worse than said child fucking.

…fuck that shit.

A guy with an opinion is not more dangerous than a kiddy fucker. Stop defending the kiddy fuckers. Stop defending the guy who thinks homosexuality should be illegal. Stop defending the guy who if elected will have the power to hurt the poor, the disenfranchised. MrDribble has the power to do jack-shit and to compare him to somebody who has a real chance of getting elected to power is just bat-shit insane.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/124 "2017-12-13T01:20:17Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> … assumes facts not introduced into evidence, 'Luci.
> 
> 1. That McConnell knows what the “right thing” is
> 2. That he will attempt to do it
> 3. That he will be successful in doing it

McConnell absolutely knows what the “right thing” is. That’s why he so unerringly avoids it time after time.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/125 "2017-12-13T01:21:23Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …fuck that shit.
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> A guy with an opinion is not more dangerous than a kiddy fucker. Stop defending the kiddy fuckers. Stop defending the guy who thinks homosexuality should be illegal. Stop defending the guy who if elected will have the power to hurt the poor, the disenfranchised. MrDribble has the power to do jack-shit and to compare him to somebody who has a real chance of getting elected to power is just bat-shit insane.

Ah but it’s that whole anarchist _concept_, though, that will lead to unlimited, rampant child-fucking, or something.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/126 "2017-12-13T01:21:46Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> **Dibble** is an admitted anarchist, and therefore by definition wants to destroy any form of ordered society and reduce us to a natural nasty, brutish and short life. That is worse than what _any_ mainstream politician wants to do.
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> I expect this to fall on deaf ears, though, as there are people in this thread, **Dibble** included, who literally think the existence of police and justice systems make life worse for people in general.

Fortunately, there are enough knock-kneed fascists quivering behind their peepholes to counter the shrill shrieky Dibbles and restore balance to the universe. Halle-fuckin-lujah.

Cheer up, Stuffy. A pistol-waving racist shitbag is probably heading to Capitol Hill. Tonight’s a cork-popping occasion for like-minded shitbags the world over.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/127 "2017-12-13T01:22:36Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> … assumes facts not introduced into evidence, 'Luci.
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> 1. That McConnell knows what the “right thing” is
> 2. That he will attempt to do it
> 3. That he will be successful in doing it

OK, its weird and unlikely. But what if?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/128 "2017-12-13T01:32:38Z")

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Early vote gives Jones the lead over Molester Claus

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/129 "2017-12-13T01:34:12Z")

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I’m using this site: [Alabama Senate Election Results 2017 | Moore vs. Jones live results and maps](https://www.politico.com/interactives/elections/2017/alabama/special-election/dec-12/)

Keeps updating pretty quickly, but it’s only 0.5% as of now.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/130 "2017-12-13T01:36:14Z")

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With 1% in, Chester the molester is still losing!

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/131 "2017-12-13T01:52:00Z")

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5.5% in. Moore winning 50.3% to 48.5%.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/132 "2017-12-13T01:59:15Z")

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12% in. Moore ahead 55-43.

Hmm.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/133 "2017-12-13T02:01:43Z")

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Well, that’s over. Everybody come to 'Bama for Moore’s sock hop party with all local middle schools to celebrate the tearing down of the mall that kicked him out. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/134 "2017-12-13T02:05:35Z")

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21% in, 52-47 for Moore.

Perhaps its sour grapes, but no matter what happens I hope it’ll be good for democrats. If they win they get a seat in the senate. If they lose, they tie Roy Moore to the GOP in 2018 and 2020.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/135 "2017-12-13T02:05:35Z")

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The child-molesting homophobic bigot is going to take it.  
You made your desease-ridden tick-infested bed, Republicans-now lie and/or lay in it. Post here and tell us how proud you are.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/136 "2017-12-13T02:06:49Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> 12% in. Moore ahead 55-43.
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> Hmm.

Feeling confident in my 55-44-1 prediction for Moore.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/137 "2017-12-13T02:11:07Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Feeling confident in my 55-44-1 prediction for Moore.

50.5-48 Moore

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/138 "2017-12-13T02:12:41Z")

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I’d tend to say had this been a “normal” contest it may have been a runaway Republican win with minimal turnout but once nominated Moore had the advantage, however diminished, to begin with – the real contest should have been the primary.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/139 "2017-12-13T02:14:15Z")

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2.1 million people voted in 2016 in Alabama.

I’m not sure what turnout will be for this special election. Maybe 1.5 million? Who knows.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/140 "2017-12-13T02:19:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> 50.5-48 Moore

I’m seeing 54-45-1 on MSNBC now (28% in).

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