# OK Alabama

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 12, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253 "2017-12-12T02:13:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/141 "2017-12-13T02:21:42Z")

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52-46.7-1.3 Moore - Jones - Other from [here.](https://www.politico.com/interactives/elections/2017/alabama/special-election/dec-12/)

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/142 "2017-12-13T02:33:13Z")

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55% of precincts reporting. Moore ahead 53-46.

So far about 560,000 votes have been counted. As I said earlier, in the 2016 presidential election there were 3.3 million registered voters, and turnout was 2.1 million.

I’m wondering if 1.5 million or so will actually bother to vote.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/143 "2017-12-13T02:34:07Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I’m seeing 54-45-1 on MSNBC now (28% in).

It’s jumping around as votes come in.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/144 "2017-12-13T02:38:16Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> McConnell absolutely knows what the “right thing” is. That’s why he so unerringly avoids it time after time.

Has their ever been a more [appropriate application](https://m.imgur.com/gallery/oYgTY) of “That dog don’ hunt,” than this?

But hey, now Moore has the chance to smear the GOP with his racist and homophobic shit on a national stage while being egged on by Trump, Bannon, and Partners. Hopefully this will drive a schism into the GOP and they’ll accomplish even less in 2018 than they have this year, if that is in fact possible.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/145 "2017-12-13T02:40:18Z")

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Hearing that Jones won Lee County (U of Auburn), which Trump won by 23% and Moore by 6% (back in 2012).

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/146 "2017-12-13T02:41:29Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> … assumes facts not introduced into evidence, 'Luci.
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> 1. That McConnell knows what the “right thing” is
> 2. That he will attempt to do it
> 3. That he will be successful in doing it

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> McConnell absolutely knows what the “right thing” is. That’s why he so unerringly avoids it time after time.

I… er… yes. You have a valid point there. 😃

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/147 "2017-12-13T02:51:41Z")

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Montgomery (3 of 99 precincts counted so far) and Birmingham (83 of 172 pcts counted) are still out.

ETA: This is changing, second by second.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/148 "2017-12-13T02:59:39Z")

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I think it’s definitely a lot closer than the GOP wanted it to be, and it could go down to the wire, but I think when all the ballots are tossed - I mean counted - Roy Moore will “win”

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/149 "2017-12-13T03:04:07Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Montgomery (3 of 99 precincts counted so far) and Birmingham (83 of 172 pcts counted) are still out.
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> ETA: This is changing, second by second.

I came in to report this.

Tuscaloosa, Jefferson, Mobile and Montgomery county are all large urban counties that are going for Jones. All of them have tons of precincts that haven’t reported in yet.

By comparison almost all the rural counties have had all their precincts report in already.

Jones could pull this off.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/150 "2017-12-13T03:07:03Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Montgomery (3 of 99 precincts counted so far) and Birmingham (83 of 172 pcts counted) are still out.
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> ETA: This is changing, second by second.

I’m reliably informed that, in Birmingham they love the gov’nur. Didn’t Kay Ivey support Moore? That could be just the break Moore is looking for.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/151 "2017-12-13T03:08:03Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I’m reliably informed that, in Birmingham they love the gov’nur. Didn’t Kay Ivey support Moore? That could be just the break Moore is looking for.

Jones is pulling 76% in Jefferson county. He is doing great there.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/152 "2017-12-13T03:10:49Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Jones is pulling 76% in Jefferson county. He is doing great there.

I was just kidding. It was a quote from “Sweet Home Alabama”.

Earlier today, I was sure Moore would win. But now I’m getting cautiously optimistic that Jones can do it.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/153 "2017-12-13T03:18:05Z")

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Moore ahead 49.3%-49.1 only 3000 vote difference.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/154 "2017-12-13T03:18:11Z")

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In almost every county except 4, all the precincts have reported in.

Montgomery, Mobile, Tuscaloosa & Jefferson. Dozens of precincts haven’t reported in in those counties. 1/3 of the state lives in those 4 counties.

But all 4 are going for jones by 55-80%.

I’m predicting a Jones win at this point, since almost all the votes counted will come from those 4 counties now (thats my impression).

Jones is now ahead. Yay!!!

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/155 "2017-12-13T03:19:52Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Moore ahead 49.3%-49.1 only 3000 vote difference.

Jones ahead by roughly 800 votes

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/156 "2017-12-13T03:21:10Z")

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Looking good for Jones. Dare we hope?

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/157 "2017-12-13T03:21:41Z")

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With this swing in momentum is where Merrill will have to be concerned that the Elections Systems and Software (ES&S) isn’t being compromised by some evil hacking librul cabal.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/158 "2017-12-13T03:23:09Z")

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Still a ton of precincts in the following counties.

Jefferson (125 out of 172 reporting in)  
Mobile (64 out of 190)  
Montgomery (48 out of 99)

All 3 are heavily Jones. Virtually every other county has had all its precincts report in.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/159 "2017-12-13T03:24:05Z")

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Jones up 11,000

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-alabama/804253/160 "2017-12-13T03:27:40Z")

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AP called for Jones.

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