# Ok...am I old? Has the world changed? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 14, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-am-i-old-has-the-world-changed/621922 "2012-05-14T19:37:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-am-i-old-has-the-world-changed/621922/41 "2012-05-15T19:21:51Z")
I always cooked for the first date. No bill to futz over. I would prepare a wonderful meal, with wine. Sometimes, we would go dancing, sometimes just sit in the spa. 90% of the time, it did end in sex. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-am-i-old-has-the-world-changed/621922/42 "2012-05-15T19:43:29Z")
> [@dngnb8](#): > > You killed my father, prepare to pay for your meal So close… “Prepare to dine” But it would have to be after the appetizer and before the pasta. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-am-i-old-has-the-world-changed/621922/43 "2012-05-15T20:28:21Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > In my world, the Top pays. Is there always a top? Does the top pay pretty much everytime? ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-am-i-old-has-the-world-changed/621922/44 "2012-05-15T21:05:24Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > So close… **"Prepare to di** n **e**" But it would have to be after the appetizer and before the pasta. How could I have missed that! _my bolding_ What would you do if she responds “As you wish” I suggest Prenup. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-am-i-old-has-the-world-changed/621922/45 "2012-05-15T21:52:03Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > You are correct but I am screening for that behavior too. This certainly isn’t a desperation play on my part. They have to step up. Proper etiquette or lack thereof is only something you can learn about first-hand once you give them the chance. The only thing I have been disappointed with is that most of them have failed that one miserably so I do detect a bad trend at least for females in the Boston area even if they are well-educated. > > One however did a great job. It was obvious from the first few minutes that we weren’t a good romantic match but we are a good friend match. We had a great time and have kept up with each other. She is very nice Jewish lady from an affluent family and I know it can be done regardless of different backgrounds or interests. Basic manners don’t cost anyone anything. I totally agree with you about the importance of manners - but good manners shine out just as much at a lunch counter as they do at a five star restaurant. Perhaps more, since sometimes the rude will be intimidated into good behavior at a fancy place and let their inner ogre out at a place where they consider themselves better than the staff. My step-mother is an excellent example. So is her daughter. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-am-i-old-has-the-world-changed/621922/46 "2012-05-15T22:07:52Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Basic manners don’t cost anyone anything. Normally I’d agree with you, but for me basic manners means I should take you out after you take me out. There’s no way I could afford a $500 outing, so I probabaly would worry, dither, and then end up shamefacedly avoiding your phone calls. Threads like this mean my poor husband gets heathy veggies for dinner all week, because g-d forbid he die before me and I have to date again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-am-i-old-has-the-world-changed/621922.md?page=2)