:rolleyes: Meanwhile, back in reality…
I personally feel oppressed because there aren’t very many men with long hair in office, and I have long hair that I’d have to cut if I wanted to run for office.
People vote for those who represent them. I am sorry if they are not voting for you who does not represent them, and generally thinks their issues are a bunch of bullshit. :rolleyes:
You’ve completely ignored my argument that he’s also sending a message to all Presidential hopefuls- that the appearance of belief in the Christian God is necessary if you’re going to run for President.
Please help us understand the common components of our alleged “culture”.
I go to a sushi bar about once a week, is that part of it?
You can cut your hair. I can’t believe in a god.
Oh, and: :rolleyes:
There is atheist culture and there is a gay agenda.
The fact of the matter is the culture of America has changed a great deal since the 1960s. There is a lowering of standards, crude jokes on television, child pornography on billboards. It’s not imaginary. Arguing about whether it’s a concern one should care about is one thing, but I’m not interested in an argument that states that it’s imaginary, because it’s not.
Maybe not oppressed, but certainly marginalized.
If you run for office will you be pro-life or pro-choice?
The idea that moral beliefs can be intrinsically separated from politics is complete hogwash.
The fact of the matter is that your political beliefs are incompatible with the beliefs of those who you disagree with, and you, exactly like them, expect them to conform more to you than you are willing to conform to them. And that’s politics, that’s the way it is, and you lose because you are of a minority opinion.
The idea that there is an atheist culture strong enough for Christians to feel besieged by is nonsense and not something I will entertain as a serious argument.
See, I can do it too!
That’s because you hold a marginal belief. If Christians were the minority, as they might well be in 50 years, they will be the one’s marginalized. shrugs
I see. In your “real world” the majority gets its way and the minority just needs to suck on it.
Actually, my cynicism tells me that’s precisely the way shit works in this country. My point is that it shouldn’t work that way, according to the constitution.
Democracy doesn’t serve to enforce the will of the majority, but to protect the rights of the minority.
Please, mswas- explain to us exactly what the “atheist culture” is.
And after that, why don’t you outline the “gay agenda”?
I’m sure we’d all love to read all about your views on the subject.
I didn’t mean to ignore it. But I don’t think it’s particularly relevant, because that’s not the message he’s intending to send. If future presidential hopefuls take it that way, that’s their problem.
Ok, so we are at an impasse.
I am tired of dealing with the absurdity of 20 people on the same message board all telling me exactly the same thing, holding the same opinions and trying to tell me there is no common culture. It’s ridiculous nonsense.
I know what you mean. You know who ticks me off? Those math people. They say there’s no culture of mathematics, but when I ask them what 2 plus 2 is, they all give me exactly the same answer! Can’t fool me, there’s clearly indoctrination going on.
Whatever you say, Samson.
Of course there’s a common culture. It’s just not an athiest one! There is no commonality of religious belief in US common culture, which is why this whole “So help me God” in the Presidential oath business is problematic. When it comes to matters of spiritual belief, “E pluribus unum” describes US common culture nicely.
There IS a culture of math people.
An oath is generally relevant to the person taking it. It’s not about whether YOU are religious but whether or not the President is religious.
Way to miss the point, genius.
It’s funny how often y’all think it’s me who is not getting it. Just because your point is stupid doesn’t mean I didn’t get what you were driving at.
You’re just not going to convince me that the sky is chartreuse.