# Ok Coldfire, you stupid FUCK

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 2, 2000, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840 "2000-08-02T14:07:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lexicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ac8455/32.png) [@Lexicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexicon)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/121 "2000-08-04T01:00:10Z")

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I think that he has slunk away with his tail between his legs.  
He has never responded to me with anything more poignant than  
“Yeah, whatever,”  
which would indicate to me that he has nothing further to say.

What a jackass.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/122 "2000-08-04T01:03:22Z")

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Why don’t we just let this die? Y’all are trying to draw blood from burned meat. I don’t like dtl any more than the rest of you, but you can’t reason with someone to whom the concept is and will forever be foreign.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/123 "2000-08-04T01:47:25Z")

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Next victim : iampunha! 😃

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/124 "2000-08-04T02:57:25Z")

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> Originally posted by pepperlandgirl:
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> It’s hard enough to read the shit you spew without having to deal with bolding for half the post, and quote lines where they don’t belong.

I didn’t have any trouble deciphering that post, despite the farkled code.

The intelligent stuff was Coldy; the rest was DTL. Easy.

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**Author:** ![FreakFreely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/48db29/32.png) [@FreakFreely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FreakFreely)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/125 "2000-08-04T02:57:46Z")

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iampunha- I’ve stopped doing it for the purpose of reasoning with him and fighting ignorance. Now I’m just doing it for the fun of it. What’s wrong with that?

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/126 "2000-08-04T03:17:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FreakFreely \*  
> \*\*iampunha- I’ve stopped doing it for the purpose of reasoning with him and fighting ignorance. Now I’m just doing it for the fun of it. What’s wrong with that? \*\*

Forgive me, FF, but what’s wrong with that is it doesn’t make you much, if any, better than him.

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**Author:** ![FreakFreely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/48db29/32.png) [@FreakFreely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FreakFreely)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/127 "2000-08-04T03:34:36Z")

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I’m not going to claim I’m better, because I don’t think anyone is better than anyone else. But here’s the difference, he’s being an asshole to everyone. I’m being an asshole to an asshole.

Y’see, anytime I insult someone, I’m having fun doing it. I wouldn’t do it otherwise (unless I’m defending myself). But I’m a decent person so I only do it to the people who I think deserve it, just like most others. And if I can, I do it for constructive purposes.

We’re not picking on the skinny little kid who can’t stand up for himself, we’re picking on the jerk who thinks he’s bigger than he is.

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**Author:** ![Lexicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ac8455/32.png) [@Lexicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexicon)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/128 "2000-08-04T05:07:09Z")

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> iampunha- I’ve stopped doing it for the purpose of reasoning with him and fighting ignorance. Now I’m just doing it for the fun of it. What’s wrong with that?

You’re one sick fucker, you know that?  
I mean, it’s almost like beating up a retarded 12 year-old who’s in a wheelchair.  
Wouldn’t you feel bad about that? Drainthelizard is so friggin’ stupid, it could be considered a disability.

Eh? Think about it…

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/129 "2000-08-04T05:24:29Z")

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Damn, Lexi, you are the master. Words cannot express your greatness, but I’m still going to try. If there was a way for a rational person to disagree with you, I have yet to see it. You are truly godlike in your proficience at the English language. You are on the verge of overshadowing Coldfire, which I don’t consider possible by mere mortals.

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/130 "2000-08-04T05:28:25Z")

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waterj – suck up 😉

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**Author:** ![Prosser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@Prosser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prosser)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/131 "2000-08-04T05:38:23Z")

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Honestly DTL, I’m fairly new to this board. However, I read the thread in Goboy’s message… Seriously DTL, WTF? Why in God’s name would you post something that humiliating on a public board. It seems to me that you have unresolved issues re self-esteem. I think Coldfire is right in the nose. Too bad you forced him to say it.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/132 "2000-08-04T05:49:32Z")

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Damn, Coldfire. That was total incineration. You didn’t even leave a piece of lizard for me. 🙂

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**Author:** ![FreakFreely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/48db29/32.png) [@FreakFreely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FreakFreely)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/133 "2000-08-04T05:51:15Z")

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**Lexi** - If he were just stupid, I’d leave him alone. But he’s an asshole too. Therefore I’ll smack his bitch ass up **and** steal his wheelchair!

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> You’re one sick fucker, you know that?

Awwww, thanks! Can I sig that?

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**Author:** ![Lexicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ac8455/32.png) [@Lexicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexicon)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/134 "2000-08-04T05:54:40Z")

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Of course.

I wouldn’t post anything I didn’t want someone to sig.

And waterj2 - thanks!

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/135 "2000-08-04T06:06:46Z")

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I am truly disappointed by the conduct of all of you. There is not enough use of the word “felch” in this thread. Improve your conduct immediately, or I shall be forced to… uh… tell you to improve your conduct again. 😃

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**Author:** ![INTERPRETER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dbc845/32.png) [@INTERPRETER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/INTERPRETER)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/136 "2000-08-04T11:30:46Z")

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I’m glad that the general consensus is to just let the Lizard matter drop.

Of course, it’s always nice to have somehting or someone to harp on when things get mundane or stressful - but then: that is such a common, typical and predictable type of behaviour to adopt. Don’t you agree?

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/137 "2000-08-04T11:50:04Z")

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Interpreter,

The matter will drop itself if DTL decides to chicken out of his own thread and not return. Don’t worry about it.

And as said, nobody is attacking DTL “just because it is the thing to do”. He pissed a lot of people off with his lies ([read all about it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=31688)). Then, he opens this thread because apparently, I in particular am an asshole for pointing out his horrible rudeness. I still don’t understand why it had to be ME, where there were 40 others telling him he was one fucked up donkey felcher (hey, some people asked for more use of this word - there ya go).

What the hell do you expect people to do, just let it slide? This thread is two days old! The OP pissed many people off. It’s only logical people are taking stabs at someone they dispise. Especially if that someone basically ASKS, no, BEGS for it.

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/138 "2000-08-04T14:10:25Z")

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what drainthelizard is doing is WRONG, although he must be granted a few sanity points, like:

> [@](#):
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> Arrogance: def: undue assumption of importance.  
> Hmmm. Given that you feel compelled to share your opinion CONTINUOUSLY  
> on what a loser I am when it’s been said already, yup! You’re arrogant!

but, what you all are doing is equally WRONG. you are doing exacly the same thing as he is.

i for one can not see how coldfire can be considered a gentleman after his much appraised post on page one. my take on that post is more in the line of: what a sorry waste of words!

take for example:

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> I in particular am an asshole for pointing out his horrible rudeness

you point out rudeness by being rude yourself. if drainthelizards grandpa had shot himself in the leg like this you would have suffered!

a tiny historical excerpt:

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> yet you think you can accuse me of one single spelling error.

look who is talking!

another historical excerpt(old):

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> This is the Internet. “We” are not in the US, nor in Europe. The scope of ones words here is wider than in your local tavern. I expect people to realise that. Again, not a terrible thing to ask of people who have a decent brain.

care to bring up that subject in another thread coldfire? it takes me back to the days of my “america bashing”. its a stunningly similar paragraph to one you flamed me for a while back. if i remember correctly, this is what you said:

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> And puh-fuckin’-leeze don’t give us that crap about the Internet being internetional or whatever that stupid word joke was trying to spell. Fact of the matter is that the majority of the posters on this board are American, whether you like it or not. If you keep posting anti-American garbage in the frequency you do, people have no other choice than to label you a damn troll.

link: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=8412&pagenumber=3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=8412&pagenumber=3)

so coldfire…you still are the arrogant bastard i knew, nice meeting you again 🙂

bj0rn - all quotes are from coldfire, but the first one.  
ps. The goat is calling you again? ← is a good one…

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/139 "2000-08-04T14:22:14Z")

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I really don’t see why these two statements would contradict each other, bj0rn.

I told you that posting remarks, that would insult 70% of our posters, is a bad thing. You then talked about the Internet being international: I called that crap because it has nothing to do with it. You KNEW that a lot of people would be pissed off.

Okatym argued that DTL probably was ignorant about the Holocaust and its effects because of his relative distance (in space AND time) to the events. I told her that that doesn’t pardon him at all, since historical knowledge and common courtesy can and must be expected from a Straight Dope poster. Because of the worldwide coverage of posters, he KNEW that this was going to piss people off.

That’s why I called on you in the past, and on DTL now.

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2000, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-coldfire-you-stupid-fuck/27840/140 "2000-08-04T15:01:55Z")

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no coldfire, i was simply replying to statements made.

expecting ENGLISH-ONLY posters on this board is wrong, as can be clearly read from the statement you made earlier in this thread.

why is it wrong?

because although this messageboard is being posted 99,99% in english, there are phrases, sentances and language practices like sarcasm that can lead to misunderstanding because in/direct translation of the words is not always true.

therefore you make your own “holocaust” when you rudely critizise drainthelizards rude post, with you in the role of the doers.

in the thread i provided a link to in my previous post, you attacked my because i didnt know the “globally” accepted word “holocaust”. my, my…ive learned it!  
you were offended because i called it “the jewish thingy”. perhaps you were right to be offended, perhaps you overreacted.

the point here is that drainthelizard made a BAD post, you replied rudely…some time went by and drainthelizard started this thread. he rudely accused you of many things not worth mentioning again. but you, coldfire and the minions that are hiding behind your back, did exacly the same. it just sounded better because you have got practise.

your practise however is limited, to your minions as i would like to call them. (no offence people, this is just the way it looks, nobody seems to be able of constructive critisism around here…although i remember from days past people like green bean and tomndebb)

i am really sorry for mentioning names, nothing negative intended.

yes, he probably knew he was going to piss people off. but dearest coldfire, do not say you didnt expect drainthelizard to get pissed off by your remarks.

bj0rn \<- sod

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