# OK, I don't get the appeal of Buffy **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 20, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763 "2014-02-20T02:10:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763/61 "2014-02-23T21:45:54Z")
The first episode I saw had Buffy running away from a monster or villain or something. She takes a short-cut and runs into a dead-end alley. I lost it right there. You’re fighting a war…and you haven’t even studied your own home ground? Shrug. No prob. It’s still a good show, with lots of clever bits. It just isn’t the right stuff for some of us. I’ll watch re-runs of Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes, and be content. Hell of a world if everyone liked all the same stuff! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763/62 "2014-02-23T21:50:04Z")
In the first episode, Buffy is not meant to be an experienced and skilled warrior. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763/63 "2014-02-23T21:52:10Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > The first episode I saw had Buffy running away from a monster or villain or something. She takes a short-cut and runs into a dead-end alley. > > I lost it right there. You’re fighting a war…and you haven’t even studied your own home ground? > > Shrug. No prob. It’s still a good show, with lots of clever bits. It just isn’t the right stuff for some of us. I’ll watch re-runs of Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes, and be content. Hell of a world if everyone liked all the same stuff! > [@Acsenray](#): > > In the first episode, Buffy is not meant to be an experienced and skilled warrior. The first episode he saw might not have been the first episode of the series…she did do dumb stuff. I lost track of the series about the time Riley landed on campus. Nice that they were able to build and operate a massive underground complex without anyone knowing. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763/64 "2014-02-23T22:42:54Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > The first episode he saw might not have been the first episode of the series…she did do dumb stuff. . . . This. Exactly so. Other things irked me… In one episode, they had a computer program that identified demons, very quickly, from descriptive details. It was a powerful weapon and should have been a mainstay of their strategy. But it wasn’t. The show grated against my inner wargamer. My old high-school nerd squad wouldn’t have made those mistakes. (Other mistakes, sure!) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763/65 "2014-02-23T23:42:31Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Other things irked me… In one episode, they had a computer program that identified demons, very quickly, from descriptive details. It was a powerful weapon and should have been a mainstay of their strategy. I think that was just the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763/66 "2014-02-27T22:45:08Z")
There was an online demon database that they used all the time in Angel, so they didn’t have to bother with research anymore. (Except when the writers needed them to and then the demon was rare and missing from the database) Honestly, the Buffy/Angel split kind of bothered me. I know they tried to justify their independence from each other, but when it comes down to it I can’t really swallow the teams not calling each other when Glory is about to end everything\*. I know they deal with apocalypses kind of regularly, but it’s hard to swallow their independence when it looks like they’re well and truly fucked. And why? Because Buffy was kind of a big jerk when Angel was trying to save Faith? I know, I know, money and network reasons. I just felt like the justification needed to be stronger. - Granted the team may have been in the alternate dimension at that point, but nobody even mentioned it as a possibility. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763/67 "2014-02-27T23:02:45Z")
Actually, the Fang Gang _were_ in Pylea during the confrontation with Glory. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763/68 "2014-02-27T23:46:41Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Actually, the Fang Gang _were_ in Pylea during the confrontation with Glory. Right, but it was kind of weird that nobody mentioned trying to call Angel with a throwaway line about them not responding. But conservation of detail and all that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-i-dont-get-the-appeal-of-buffy/681763.md?page=3)