# Ok,Im new here,Carol is the name

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 18, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534 "2010-04-18T15:34:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/181 "2010-04-24T01:30:38Z")

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Anybody got a link to the photo that our friend Carol is referring to? Linky? Anybody?

Or is it too ‘black ops’, y’know, and shit?

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**Author:** ![Torpor\_Beast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71e660/32.png) [@Torpor\_Beast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torpor_Beast)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/182 "2010-04-24T03:26:21Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Dyatlov Pass has been covered a few times here. I think it was **Zsofia** who gave a [link](http://www.cracked.com/article_16671_6-famous-unsolved-mysteries-with-really-obvious-solutions.html) debunking the incident.

Ohh, cool. Thanks for that link. I’m a regular reader of [cracked.com](http://cracked.com), but I’ve managed to miss that particular article for some reason.

I still think that the Bermuda Triangle is caused by Cthulhu though… :dubious:

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/183 "2010-04-24T04:04:54Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> That doesn’t look any more difficult than, say, [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw). And I’m pretty sure those were Grays disguised as sheep.

> [@Kolga](#):
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> That is FANTASTIC.

No, TRULY fantastic. Thank OG, something good came out of this.

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/184 "2010-04-24T04:22:01Z")

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> [@Torpor\_Beast](#):
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> Ohh, cool. Thanks for that link. I’m a regular reader of [cracked.com](http://cracked.com), but I’ve managed to miss that particular article for some reason.
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> I still think that the Bermuda Triangle is caused by Cthulhu though… :dubious:

I thought that was [the Bloop](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop).

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**Author:** ![LilyoftheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@LilyoftheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheField)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/185 "2010-04-24T04:31:01Z")

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the Bloop - of course!

BLack oOPs! coincidence?

I think not…

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/186 "2010-04-24T10:38:19Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> Thanks **Euphonious Polemic**. I was hoping though carol would explain it on her own instead of blowing it off.
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> **Jenaroph** wrote (concerning whether humans could have created the martian faced field)..
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> This is my opinion exactly.
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> It’s the nature of humans to create and build things, often displaying incredible ingenuity. There are many examples of this throughout history.
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> It’s also the nature of people to want to believe in something, often clinging dearly to those beliefs while dissing logic and facts.
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> Some persons don’t believe complex crop designs were human made, even after being shown how it was done. And isn’t it a lot more interesting to believe that aliens have made the crop designs?  
> And the very same supreme beings who made the crop designs are mutilating cattle (this is more interesting too than any more logical explanation.)

sigh,for the umpteenth time I do NOT believe Aliens have anything to do with Cattle Mutilations nor Crop Circles,is that clear? I think they were done by humans is that clear?

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/187 "2010-04-24T11:07:08Z")

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Ok Ive got to get going but let me leave you with this.Whoever asked what the heck Black Ops were doing mutilating cattle and making crop circles in the fields of England is right on the money with that question. Right outside of Whiltshire England where many of the crop circles are made is a military base.I believe most sincerely that no one enters those fields to make crop circles that there actually made from afar.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/188 "2010-04-24T11:10:20Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> sigh,for the umpteenth time I do NOT believe Aliens have anything to do with Cattle Mutilations nor Crop Circles,is that clear? I think they were done by humans is that clear?

OK, note taken. Would you care to address _why_ they’re doing it?

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**Author:** ![freckafree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freckafree/32/3050_2.png) [@freckafree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freckafree)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/189 "2010-04-24T14:13:37Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> Is that right Telemark,so making the alien face is easy huh? Suuurre it is,that shading alone is worth the price of admission,one mistake and the manevolent look of the eyes would have been comical.The binary code silly as the message is is pretty percise.I feel like im peeing in the wind here.

[This](http://geriscosycorner.blogspot.com/2008/12/alien-illusion-scarf-baby-blanket.html) must be the work of extraterrestrials, too. What mere human could possible have figured out how to do this? (The alien “illusion knitting” pattern was made popular in the book _Stitch 'N Bitch_. You can find examples of it all over teh interwebs.)

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/190 "2010-04-24T14:41:13Z")

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here read this by Jacquee Vallee,Im exhausted…

> **[In Search of Alien Glyphs (or are they microwave blasters?) | Boing Boing](https://boingboing.net/2010/03/23/in-search-of-alien-g.html#previouspost)**
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> Jacques Vallee is a computer scientist, partner in a venture capital firm, and author of more than 20 books, including Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers, The Invisible College, a…

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/191 "2010-04-24T15:00:02Z")

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I believe This is the answer to crop circles,their not alien at all.Those of us that have believed it to be true may be a tad disappointed but look what they have successfully done.Made us look in another direction thats what. That means for all of us that have questioned the ability of a couple of guys with a plank and rope,bravo for us

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**Author:** ![Torpor\_Beast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71e660/32.png) [@Torpor\_Beast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torpor_Beast)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/192 "2010-04-24T15:05:44Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> here read this by Jacquee Vallee,Im exhausted..
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> [In Search of Alien Glyphs (or are they microwave blasters?) - Boing Boing](http://boingboing.net/2010/03/23/in-search-of-alien-g.html#previouspost)

The article leaves me with a couple of questions:

1. If the circles are made by a microwave device as the article claims, howcome the the wheat(or whatever the crop might be) gets bent, instead of cooked by the device?

2. Why would they “calibrate” the devices on privately owned land and risk attracting attention, when most governments have plenty of land to use as testing grounds?

Also, I’ve worked with various optical devices emitting laser beams, and since a maser beam behaves very similarly for our purposes, I see no reason why calibrating the device would require drawing elaborate patterns with it. Once you hit something with it, you can pretty much tell where it’s pointing.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/193 "2010-04-24T15:08:29Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> here read this by Jacquee Vallee,Im exhausted..
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> [In Search of Alien Glyphs (or are they microwave blasters?) - Boing Boing](http://boingboing.net/2010/03/23/in-search-of-alien-g.html#previouspost)

Carol, I’m going to say this one more time. On this message board, whoever posts something weird, extraordinary, or bullshit, is the one under the obligation to prove themselves. We are under no obligation to read links that you provide.

So, once again (with feeling), as so many of the other people have said - WHAT DO YOU THINK IS CAUSING THE CATTLE MUTILATIONS?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/194 "2010-04-24T16:25:33Z")

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I blame jazz music.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/195 "2010-04-24T17:07:58Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> I believe most sincerely that no one enters those fields to make crop circles that there actually made from afar.

How?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/196 "2010-04-24T17:09:26Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> here read this by Jacquee Vallee,Im exhausted..
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> [In Search of Alien Glyphs (or are they microwave blasters?) - Boing Boing](http://boingboing.net/2010/03/23/in-search-of-alien-g.html#previouspost)

I posted to that thread on Boing Boing when it first ran. Vallee’s knowledge of the physics behind his claims is crap.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/197 "2010-04-24T21:42:56Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> I believe most sincerely that no one enters those fields to make crop circles that there actually made from afar.

Why do you believe that when people have posted videos of themselves going into those fields with boards and strings creating those patterns? This isn’t a case of hearing hoof beats and thinking zebras, you’re thinking giant hooved marsupials wearing tin foil hats.

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/198 "2010-04-25T02:08:10Z")

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Where can I get a tinfoil hat?! (Er, do I have to make my own? or maybe carol knows where I can get one?) What does yours look like, carol? Is it conical? Or just comical.

pics!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/199 "2010-04-25T05:22:50Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> Whoever asked what the heck Black Ops were doing mutilating cattle and making crop circles in the fields of England is right on the money with that question.

So how about answering the question? You never explained why anybody would be taking cow anuses or eyeballs either.

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/200 "2010-04-25T10:33:43Z")

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Well yes I did answer that question of why anyone would take cow anuses and udders and other soft tissue,they take it for testing. And whoever it was that said they didnt want to read the link to Vallee is causing me to get hives,why do you think I posted it in the first place? Go back and read it cause Vallee has been a #1 figure in the paranormal for eons now.Personally I love a mystery and having Vallee echo an idea that this is done from afar and that its a military doing I find exciting.

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