# Ok,Im new here,Carol is the name

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 18, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534 "2010-04-18T15:34:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/341 "2010-04-29T16:09:25Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> I already told you all that I think crop circles are a black ops.I believe Vallee has hit the nail on its head.

How about some responses about cattle mutilations (which is how this started out), beyond “I believe the ranchers know what they are talking about.”?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/342 "2010-04-29T16:57:39Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> I believe Vallee has hit the nail on its head.

Vallee isn’t even holding a hammer.

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/343 "2010-04-29T17:32:50Z")

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> **Telemark** wrote:  
> Vallee isn’t even holding a hammer.

I think she’s referring to Vallee as _it_ and is suggesting he’s pounding nails with his very own forehead.

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/344 "2010-04-29T17:39:07Z")

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If you think back to Doug and Dave and move forward an interesting picture emerges. First Doug and Dave (now gone to that big crop circle in the sky btw) claimed it was they and they alone that were responsible for the crop circles. This and this alone may have given the actual circlemakers the idea of doing some crop circles of there own. But someone else may have seen an oportunity to blame it on the aliens,why they would want to do this Im not quite sure. Maybe it really is a study into human nature. There will be those that snatch up the idea of its being aliens and there will be those that convince themselves all to readily that its the Circlemakers that are responsible. The whole idea behind all of it is to cause doubt and confusion.Maybe thats whats being studied.How the public solves the problem or just shrugs and ignores the whole business.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/345 "2010-04-29T17:50:24Z")

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Im not quite sure,why anyone would overlook the obvious,to see the hand of aliens ad black ops and stuff,right.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/346 "2010-04-29T17:54:29Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> If you think back to Doug and Dave and move forward an interesting picture emerges. First Doug and Dave (now gone to that big crop circle in the sky btw) claimed it was they and they alone that were responsible for the crop circles. This and this alone may have given the actual circlemakers the idea of doing some crop circles of there own. But someone else may have seen an oportunity to blame it on the aliens,why they would want to do this Im not quite sure. Maybe it really is a study into human nature. There will be those that snatch up the idea of its being aliens and there will be those that convince themselves all to readily that its the Circlemakers that are responsible. The whole idea behind all of it is to cause doubt and confusion.Maybe thats whats being studied.How the public solves the problem or just shrugs and ignores the whole business.

So the experiment is to do something confusing, then reveal how it was done, then see how many people are stupid enough to ignore the real reason and decide to believe in aliens anyway? And this honestly makes sense to you?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/347 "2010-04-29T18:07:14Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> This and this alone may have given the actual circlemakers the idea of doing some crop circles of there own.

Gee, ya think?

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> But someone else may have seen an oportunity to blame it on the aliens,why they would want to do this Im not quite sure.

There is no reason. It doesn’t make any sense.

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> The whole idea behind all of it is to cause doubt and confusion.

Whose idea? It sounds like you’re still assuming there’s a conspiracy here, and there’s no reason to assume that as a starting point.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/348 "2010-04-29T18:10:53Z")

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All I know is that if my tax dollars are going to some confusing program whose sole purpose is to confuse me just to see if I’ll get confused … I’m going to become terribly … perplexed.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/349 "2010-04-29T18:14:28Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> All I know is that if my tax dollars are going to some confusing program whose sole purpose is to confuse me just to see if I’ll get confused … I’m going to become terribly … perplexed.

It’s working! BWAH-HA-HA!

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/350 "2010-04-29T18:20:41Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> A great philosopher once said:
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> “When a simple explaination explains the obvious, only a closed mind fails to believe the unbelieveable.” Suna Woc
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> I love her quotes.

Well now Spud,than I take it you believe in UFOs right?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/351 "2010-04-29T18:31:05Z")

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Please don’t move on to UFOs yet. You haven’t even explained cattle mutilation and you’ve already dragged crop circles into it.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/352 "2010-04-29T18:54:44Z")

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Perhaps she trusts **Spud** , and she’s sneaking up to revealing UFOs as an explanation for cattle mutilation and crop circles.

It’s like a nature show:

VOICEOVER: \*We can see that **Spud’s** patience and dedication have finally begun to pay off, and the elusive and skittish **carol nistri** has begun to form a bond. Spud is being very quiet, and exhibiting a calm yet assertive presence that allows \*\*carol nistri \*_to feel protected and secure. She may be beginning to open up and trust him, after the many conflicts in her past. The comment regarding UFOs may be the first step in the revelation she so desperately wants to make - if only **Spud** can allow her to get close with spooking her. Lets watch and see._

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/353 "2010-04-29T19:05:07Z")

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I’VE GOT IT!!! Cow anus is a vital component in the crop circle-making ray machine!!

It all makes sense now.

Hang on, someone’s at the d

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/354 "2010-04-29T20:04:00Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I’VE GOT IT!!! Cow anus is a vital component in the crop circle-making ray machine!!
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> It all makes sense now.
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> Hang on, someone’s at the d

They got his anus. ☹

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/355 "2010-04-29T20:10:31Z")

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There is not enough popcorn in the world for this thread. And it’s making me wanna re-watch the old “South Park” with the cattle and aliens.

Carol, have you seen it?

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/356 "2010-04-29T21:43:40Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> Well now Spud,than I take it you believe in UFOs right?

Yes absolutely. I am 100% certain that objects have been observed flying (or floating or falling) that were unable to be identified by those oserving them.

Now if you ask me if I believe any of those were spacecraft piloted by aliens lets just say my level of certainty drops considerably.

Now with that out of the way… I want to offer you a hearty congratulations! I know of no other person who has generated an 8 page thread from their very first post. AND a new catch phrase (Cow Anus) has been coined from it. Wether you are trolling us along for your own enjoyment or you actually believe what you have posted it doesn’t matter… well done I say.

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/357 "2010-04-29T21:48:38Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Perhaps she trusts **Spud** , and she’s sneaking up to revealing UFOs as an explanation for cattle mutilation and crop circles.
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> It’s like a nature show:
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> VOICEOVER: \*We can see that **Spud’s** patience and dedication have finally begun to pay off, and the elusive and skittish **carol nistri** has begun to form a bond. Spud is being very quiet, and exhibiting a calm yet assertive presence that allows \*\*carol nistri \*_to feel protected and secure. She may be beginning to open up and trust him, after the many conflicts in her past. The comment regarding UFOs may be the first step in the revelation she so desperately wants to make - if only **Spud** can allow her to get close with spooking her. Lets watch and see._

HA HA LOL! Now that is funny!

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/358 "2010-04-29T21:50:20Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> There is not enough popcorn in the world for this thread. And it’s making me wanna re-watch the old “South Park” with the cattle and aliens.
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> Carol, have you seen it?

You know as a matter of fact I havent seen a single episode of South Park.

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**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/359 "2010-04-29T21:53:53Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> Yes absolutely. I am 100% certain that objects have been observed flying (or floating or falling) that were unable to be identified by those oserving them.
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> Now if you ask me if I believe any of those were spacecraft piloted by aliens lets just say my level of certainty drops considerably.
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> Now with that out of the way… I want to offer you a hearty congratulations! I know of no other person who has generated an 8 page thread from their very first post. AND a new catch phrase (Cow Anus) has been coined from it. Wether you are trolling us along for your own enjoyment or you actually believe what you have posted it doesn’t matter… well done I say.

Well try looking at it from my point of view,I litterally stumble onto this board,I read a piece by the owner of the board and followed the links here,I took a chance and put my thread in the Great Debates forum,but it was immediatly transferred to the Mundane. Shrugs,Id come this far why not post and see if I get any nibbles.It was clear from the beginning you guys were a tough crowd but I dont easily get discouraged so I decided to see just who thought what about what.It turned out to be a load of fun,you guys are top notch.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/360 "2010-04-29T22:43:49Z")

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> [@carol\_nistri](#):
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> I already told you all that I think crop circles are a black ops.I believe Vallee has hit the nail on its head.  
> [Of Flattened Flora and Expulsion Cavities: The crop circle controversy continues - Boing Boing](http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/28/of-flattened-flora-a.html)

No. He’s a ninny. In fact, if you look at comment #4 at that link you can read why I think so.

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