# Ok,Im new here,Carol is the name **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 18, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534 "2010-04-18T15:34:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/161 "2010-04-23T16:31:14Z")
Telemark is right. carol, why not please just tell everyone what is causing the mutilations in your opinion? And like others have said, why not just write out the word “mutilations” instead of the abbreviation? Is it to same time? I think using “mutes” is silly and I think there are many others here who agree. So again, why not just come out with it and tell us what in your belief is causing the mutilations? Black Ops? Are we supposed to know what that is? I must have missed out on that one. So if it’s “black ops” that are the cause of the mysterious mutilations, what exactly is a black op? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/162 "2010-04-23T16:49:16Z")
What’s wrong with black OPs? I thought people of any color were allowed to start threads here. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/163 "2010-04-23T16:51:54Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > What’s wrong with black OPs? I thought people of any color were allowed to start threads here. Even in our enlightened society, some people still have to start at the back of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/164 "2010-04-23T17:21:01Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > That is to say, somebody could create or copy an image and turn it into a set of GPS coordinates, and then it’s just a matter of stamping the wheat down where your GPS device tells you to do so. And an English-language message in “binary” that any college freshman in computer science could create (or decode, for that matter)? There are far more mysterious things in the world than _that_. Naw,GPS wouldnt hack it,and that business of stomping the wheat or crop down using only a plank and rope certainly dosnt cut it.Go look closely at the Alien Face look at that binary code and try to picture some guys at night out in the middle of a dark field doing this,you get one chance and one chance only to get it right,once the wheat or crop is flattend thats it.Now stare at that binary code and picture men milling around flattening the crop with this kind of percision.Are you getting the picture now? ---
**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/165 "2010-04-23T17:23:04Z")
> [@the lone cashew](#): > > Telemark is right. carol, why not please just tell everyone what is causing the mutilations in your opinion? And like others have said, why not just write out the word “mutilations” instead of the abbreviation? Is it to same time? I think using “mutes” is silly and I think there are many others here who agree. > > So again, why not just come out with it and tell us what in your belief is causing the mutilations? > Black Ops? Are we supposed to know what that is? I must have missed out on that one. So if it’s “black ops” that are the cause of the mysterious mutilations, what exactly is a black op? Oh come on,what is this homeroom 101? You know what a black operations is as well as the next person.:smack: ---
**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/166 "2010-04-23T17:28:43Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > The board only allows links to images, no inline images here. > > And this is a perfect example of why. The image, by itself, means very little. It’s amusing, but unless you back up in words and logic why it would be impossible for a group of motivated people to make that with relatively simple technology then you’ve really done nothing to advance your case. In fact, since it’s pretty easy to see how a group of hoaxers could make the alien face, you’ve shot your own argument in the foot. > > You don’t seem to understand the implications of the data you are presenting. Rather than bolstering your case (it’s all black ops) it is merely showing how mundane and simple explanations are more logical. Is that right Telemark,so making the alien face is easy huh? Suuurre it is,that shading alone is worth the price of admission,one mistake and the manevolent look of the eyes would have been comical.The binary code silly as the message is is pretty percise.I feel like im peeing in the wind here. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/167 "2010-04-23T17:36:46Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > Is that right Telemark,so making the alien face is easy huh? Suuurre it is,that shading alone is worth the price of admission,one mistake and the manevolent look of the eyes would have been comical.The binary code silly as the message is is pretty percise.I feel like im peeing in the wind here. You’re not giving your own species enough credit for creativity, artistry and skill. Just because you can’t figure out how it was done doesn’t mean no one of this earth could. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/168 "2010-04-23T17:39:14Z")
Okay, I’ve taken a look at the Alien Face and I’m not sure if anyone else noticed this, but I’m seeing some [long range anomolies](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=82431)… ---
**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/169 "2010-04-23T17:40:58Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > Oh come on,what is this homeroom 101? You know what a black operations is as well as the next person.:smack: True. The next person is me, and I don’t know what it means, either. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/170 "2010-04-23T17:42:18Z")
She could tell you, but she’d have to have the CIA kill you. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/171 "2010-04-23T17:43:16Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > Oh come on,what is this homeroom 101? You know what a black operations is as well as the next person.:smack: A sooper dooper secrety spy operation, popularized in fiction, movies and crackpot conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/172 "2010-04-23T18:23:36Z")
Thanks **Euphonious Polemic**. I was hoping though carol would explain it on her own instead of blowing it off. **Jenaroph** wrote (concerning whether humans could have created the martian faced field).. > [@](#): > > You’re not giving your own species enough credit for creativity, artistry and skill. Just because you can’t figure out how it was done doesn’t mean no one of this earth could. This is my opinion exactly. It’s the nature of humans to create and build things, often displaying incredible ingenuity. There are many examples of this throughout history. It’s also the nature of people to want to believe in something, often clinging dearly to those beliefs while dissing logic and facts. Some persons don’t believe complex crop designs were human made, even after being shown how it was done. And isn’t it a lot more interesting to believe that aliens have made the crop designs? And the very same supreme beings who made the crop designs are mutilating cattle (this is more interesting too than any more logical explanation.) ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/173 "2010-04-23T18:23:41Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > I feel like im peeing in the wind here. I’m beginning to agree. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/174 "2010-04-23T18:40:34Z")
**carol** , I’m guessing that your radio listening runs to Art Bell and Coast-to-Coast. Am I right? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/175 "2010-04-23T19:09:28Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > I feel like im peeing in the wind here. I think a few of us feel like we’re standing downwind of you. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/176 "2010-04-23T19:44:29Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > Is that right Telemark,so making the alien face is easy huh? Suuurre it is,that shading alone is worth the price of admission,one mistake and the manevolent look of the eyes would have been comical.The binary code silly as the message is is pretty percise.I feel like im peeing in the wind here. Because you don’t understand the artistic concept of shading you think it must have been done by some advanced technology? Seriously? This is simply argument by incredulity, but I think we all knew that’s where you were going. Every time a new complex crop circle came out CTs were convinced this would prove that they were too complex to be done by people with boards and string. And yet they were, every single time. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/177 "2010-04-23T20:10:25Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > Ok,what do I think Cattle Mutilations and Crop Circles have in common? In my opinion only,I think there blacker than black operations. Why the hell would the CIA or MI5 be stamping messages in British farmers’ crops? Why would they be mutilating cattle? I think you hinted at something about radiation, but that wouldn’t explain crop circles. And no, I don’t think you would need advanced technology to do this. > [@carol\_nistri](#): > > Naw,GPS wouldnt hack it And what’s the basis for this statement? And don’t forget that minor imperfections in the design would be smoothed out when it’s viewed from hundreds of feet in the air. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/178 "2010-04-23T20:15:57Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > Naw,GPS wouldnt hack it,and that business of stomping the wheat or crop down using only a plank and rope certainly dosnt cut it.Go look closely at the Alien Face look at that binary code and try to picture some guys at night out in the middle of a dark field doing this,you get one chance and one chance only to get it right,once the wheat or crop is flattend thats it.Now stare at that binary code and picture men milling around flattening the crop with this kind of percision.Are you getting the picture now? That doesn’t look any more difficult than, say, [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw). And I’m pretty sure those were Grays disguised as sheep. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/179 "2010-04-23T20:26:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > That doesn’t look any more difficult than, say, [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw). And I’m pretty sure those were Grays disguised as sheep. That is FANTASTIC. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534/180 "2010-04-24T01:25:15Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > Now, unlike cattle “mutes”, I do find that to be one freaky story. > > As well as another story from back in the USSR: [quackers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quacker_(sound)). Dyatlov Pass has been covered a few times here. I think it was **Zsofia** who gave a [link](http://www.cracked.com/article_16671_6-famous-unsolved-mysteries-with-really-obvious-solutions.html) debunking the incident. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-new-here-carol-is-the-name/536534.md?page=10)