# Ok, I'm sold, Barack Obama is a Christian

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 27, 2015, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589 "2015-06-27T01:52:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/1 "2015-06-27T01:52:30Z")

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I heard his speech at the SC funeral service today, and the President’s language and passion has convinced me he’s a genuine Christian.

A little sad a realization for me – I had hoped he was a closeted atheist.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/2 "2015-06-27T01:54:32Z")

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These sneaky Muslims will do anything to fool you.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/3 "2015-06-27T02:00:47Z")

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He can sing, too! 🆒

I just wish I hadn’t heard him sing under these circumstances.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/4 "2015-06-27T02:15:07Z")

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If you can call that singing. What I heard was almost bad enough for him to be Catholic, though it was much louder. 😉

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/5 "2015-06-27T02:17:58Z")

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It’s the long con.

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**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/6 "2015-06-27T02:41:08Z")

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I still think he’s a closet atheist.

But yea, his speech writer is a Christian for sure.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/7 "2015-06-27T04:06:40Z")

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> [@Sarabellum1976](#):
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> I still think he’s a closet atheist.
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> But yea, his speech writer is a Christian for sure.

My understanding is that Obama wrote that eulogy himself. He still could be an atheist, though. He could be an atheist who knows that effective writing requires a solid sense of audience.

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**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/8 "2015-06-27T04:11:22Z")

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OMG! That was exactly the same reaction I had earlier today.

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**Author:** ![bb49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b38774/32.png) [@bb49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bb49)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/9 "2015-06-27T04:15:55Z")

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Does it really matter what the POTUS is?

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/10 "2015-06-27T04:23:43Z")

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> [@Sarabellum1976](#):
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> But yea, his speech writer is a Christian for sure.

This here.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/11 "2015-06-27T04:26:36Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> My understanding is that Obama wrote that eulogy himself. He still could be an atheist, though. He could be an atheist who knows that effective writing requires a solid sense of audience.

Yes, but, how many politicians would actually go to that much trouble?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  
I slay me.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/12 "2015-06-27T04:33:33Z")

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> [@bb49](#):
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> Does it really matter what the POTUS is?

Dunno, ask the conservatives who think he’s Muslim.

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**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/13 "2015-06-27T14:05:17Z")

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This is a great take on the eulogy by Hemant Mehta, aka The Friendly Atheist.  
[About President Obama’s Speech in Charleston… | Hemant Mehta | Friendly Atheist | Patheos](http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/06/27/about-president-obamas-speech-in-charleston/?ref_widget=related&ref_blog=friendlyatheist&ref_post=christianity-today-with-marriage-equality-out-of-the-way-lgbt-people-might-embrace-us)

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**Author:** ![Recusant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Recusant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recusant)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/14 "2015-06-27T15:05:36Z")

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> [@bb49](#):
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> Does it really matter what the POTUS is?

Of course it does. Remember how we had a Roman Catholic president in the 60’s, and now we all swear our eternal allegiance to the Pope every morning?

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/15 "2015-06-27T15:36:31Z")

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Obama is often a powerful speaker. The eulogy was an example of his skill.

I loved it. (Well, as much as one can love a eulogy.)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/16 "2015-06-27T15:56:28Z")

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I actually hope he continues to embrace his lameduckiness and give more speeches that actually inspire, critics be danged.

He doesn’t \*need \*to be a Christian anymore; he doesn’t \*need \*to be afraid of coming off too black anymore; he doesn’t \*need \*to tone down his progressive ideas any more. I hope every speech he does now is just the true Barack Obama. I feel like this speech/eulogy nailed it. He’s a Christian, he’s black, he’s socially progressive. \*That \*inspires. Triangulation? Worrying about what critics and conservatives will do? Not so much.

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/17 "2015-06-27T16:10:00Z")

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The LaVeyan Satanists are also pissed: they were _sure_ he is a closet Devil-worshipper.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/18 "2015-06-27T17:43:36Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> The LaVeyan Satanists are also pissed: they were _sure_ he is a closet Devil-worshipper.

😃 Nicely played!  
But yes, it was the right speech in the right context to the right audience and he even said so holding up the role of the black churches as centers of activism and community building as part of the common thread.

> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> A little sad a realization for me – I had hoped he was a closeted atheist.

> [@Sarabellum1976](#):
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> I still think he’s a closet atheist.  
> But yea, his speech writer is a Christian for sure.

Ok, people: _what good is a closeted atheist?_ Show me a little of the thought process.

Because there has got to be more than “an intelligent person I find likeable has to be one of us” or even “this intelligent, likeable person: we want to claim him”. Or is it the expectation that if he were a real believer he would be imposing his faith on the rest of us at every turn? Because on that last basis then I’d have to presume a majority of the men to have held the office would meet the “closet atheist” test.

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/19 "2015-06-27T18:54:08Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I actually hope he continues to embrace his lameduckiness and give more speeches that actually inspire, critics be danged.
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> He doesn’t \*need \*to be a Christian anymore; he doesn’t \*need \*to be afraid of coming off too black anymore; he doesn’t \*need \*to tone down his progressive ideas any more. I hope every speech he does now is just the true Barack Obama. I feel like this speech/eulogy nailed it. He’s a Christian, he’s black, he’s socially progressive. \*That \*inspires. Triangulation? Worrying about what critics and conservatives will do? Not so much.

After I finished wiping the tears away the above is pretty much what ran through my mind.

We saw a flash of this back when he said this:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq-b71fxP_Y)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-im-sold-barack-obama-is-a-christian/723589/20 "2015-06-27T19:43:53Z")

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That picture is a wonderful summation of the American melting pot: shows that black people, white people and orange people can reach the highest seats in government.

🙂
