# OK, I've seen The Avengers - open spoilers!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 8, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234 "2012-05-08T01:37:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/281 "2012-05-14T15:17:48Z")

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I saw it again on Friday, and this time I sat all the way through to the end. I loved the last scene. Did anyone else think it was a tribute to ‘[Big Night](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115678/)’?

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/282 "2012-05-14T15:32:26Z")

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> [@Tabby\_Cat](#):
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> Ok, best scene - Hulk and Loki. 🙂
> 
> Just a question, though - how durable is Loki, and for that matter, Thor? That thumping by the Hulk seemed pretty bad, but the damage to the floor didn’t look THAT bad. Comparable to getting tossed out of a skyscraper, maybe? Could Loki survive that? I was expecting a Hulk SMASH at the end to make sure that he was really down - I would have done that - but Loki just kinda lies there. Would bullets hurt Loki?

Asgardians, even run-of-the-mill ones, are super tough. Dr Doom recently cut the heart out of one in a bit of evil unnecessary surgery, and remarked to Loki that he was surprised how long the guy lived without his heart.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/283 "2012-05-14T15:37:28Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> I saw it again on Friday, and this time I sat all the way through to the end. I loved the last scene. Did anyone else think it was a tribute to ‘[Big Night](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115678/)’?

As a guy who’s spent some time in armor in the SCA, fighting all day at wars… I’ve been there, and that is exactly what the after-action feed looks like.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/284 "2012-05-14T15:52:44Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> I could watch a looped gif of the “puny god” scene for ages and be happy. That was the hardest I have laughed in a really really long time. I want to see the movie again just for that scene. It was _perfect_.

Ask and ye shall recieve.

[http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17lxaa1yj8y1ngif/cmt-medium.gif](http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17lxaa1yj8y1ngif/cmt-medium.gif)

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/285 "2012-05-14T16:11:16Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Ask and ye shall recieve.
> 
> [http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17lxaa1yj8y1ngif/cmt-medium.gif](http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17lxaa1yj8y1ngif/cmt-medium.gif)

YES!!!

Thank you kindly!

As payback, and a new contribution to the thread, an interview with Clark Gregg (Agent Coulson) about his “motivating” the Avengers.

[Agent Coulson Interview WITH SPOILERS!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/12/marvels-the-avengers-clark-gregg_n_1512129.html)

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/286 "2012-05-14T16:17:07Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> Asgardians, even run-of-the-mill ones, are super tough. Dr Doom recently cut the heart out of one in a bit of evil unnecessary surgery, and remarked to Loki that he was surprised how long the guy lived without his heart.

There’s also shock value. I mean, Loki is pretty cock of the walk here, after fighting dramatically and classically with his brother (and stabbing him), after swatting away anoying flying attacks from all sides, and he’s getting all monologue-y and dramatic. This is his big moment where he smites the last unbeliever!

But instead this … monster with no respect for his person or his evil godlike abilities just snatches him up by the ankles and swings him around like a ragdoll.

Regardless of actual physical damage, there’s got to be a few moments of mental readjustment of the nature of reality and your own place in it after an experience like that. Hell, look at poor Black Widow after Hulk chases her down - despite her truly amazing mental fortitude, she’s shaking like a leaf and he never even touched her! Loki doesn’t have nearly that kind of composure.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/287 "2012-05-14T16:17:22Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Minor point but worth noting cuz I’m a huge huge nerd for these things.  
> Hawkeye was left handed 🙂

Explains why he was smiling all the time.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/288 "2012-05-14T16:24:56Z")

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> [@Tabby\_Cat](#):
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> Ok, best scene - Hulk and Loki. 🙂
> 
> Just a question, though - how durable is Loki, and for that matter, Thor? That thumping by the Hulk seemed pretty bad, but the damage to the floor didn’t look THAT bad. Comparable to getting tossed out of a skyscraper, maybe? Could Loki survive that? I was expecting a Hulk SMASH at the end to make sure that he was really down - I would have done that - but Loki just kinda lies there. Would bullets hurt Loki?

When Loki warps into the Tesseract facility at the beginning of the film, he’s shot dozens of times by the guards. You can see little sparks where the bullets are just bouncing off him.

In the comics a typical Asguardian is immune to normal gunfire as I recall.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/289 "2012-05-14T16:54:15Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Minor point but worth noting cuz I’m a huge huge nerd for these things.  
> Hawkeye was left handed 🙂

Well in archery that just means he’s left eye dominant, not necessarily left-handed.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/290 "2012-05-14T17:08:46Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> I saw it again on Friday, and this time I sat all the way through to the end. I loved the last scene. Did anyone else think it was a tribute to ‘[Big Night](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115678/)’?

Nice! Hadn’t thought of that.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/291 "2012-05-14T17:29:03Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> Well in archery that just means he’s left eye dominant, not necessarily left-handed.

Wow really?

I didn’t know it worked like that. That’s kinda cool, only kinda cuz it takes away from the novelty of left handed archers in general.

But fun to know nonetheless

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/292 "2012-05-14T17:39:36Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Ask and ye shall recieve.
> 
> [http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17lxaa1yj8y1ngif/cmt-medium.gif](http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17lxaa1yj8y1ngif/cmt-medium.gif)

I love how The Hulk gives him a couple of poundings, then holds him up to check him out.

**-\>POUND\<-**

**-\>POUND\<-**

_How’s he doing? Nope, not done yet._

**-\>POUND\<-  
-\>POUND\<-  
-\>POUND\<-**

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/293 "2012-05-14T17:49:31Z")

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Yeah, he went all Bamm-Bamm on Loki…

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/294 "2012-05-14T18:07:52Z")

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And technically Loki’s a tiny Frost Giant, and for what it’s worth they seemed just as tough as Asgardians except for Odin and Thor.

I was a little disappointed that we didn;t get to see Hiddleston in his Frost Giant makeup, but there was no real reason for it, and it would have confused people who skipped _Thor_.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/295 "2012-05-14T18:21:47Z")

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My SO and I tremendously enjoyed the film.

We took the youngsters the first time we went, and they loved it.

This was the first movie in many a year that I’ve seen where the audience cheered, and clapped at the end.

Best -audience related- part of the show was when Iron Man just barely makes it through the closing portal, the theater was dead quiet. and then the Hulk jumps up to catch him, some dude yells “FUCKIN’ RIGHT!” and the whole place erupted.

The only nitpick for us was the dialogue exchanges between Fury and Hill were pretty hackneyed, cliche.

Neither of us were impressed with Nick Fury, or Sam Jackson’s performance of him.

Thanos! My favourite comics character! I love that purple guy!

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/296 "2012-05-14T18:38:24Z")

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> [@Dr\_Doom](#):
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> Neither of us were impressed with Nick Fury, or Sam Jackson’s performance of him.

Now that you mention it, this was the single weak point of the movie for me. Every time Nick Fury was on screen, it was like, “Oh, Sam Jackson.” Like, let’s have Sam Jackson say “stupid-ass” because people will love that, etc. He just didn’t sell the role for me.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/297 "2012-05-14T18:58:01Z")

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What would happen if, instead of simply pounding him into the floor, Hulk had tried to pull Loki’s arms off?

That’s what I often find myself thinking when superheroes/villains fight. “Stop punching him! Grab him in two places and pull in different directions!”

That or “stop punching him in the shin! He obviously has no ability to stop you from making contact so go for his eyes!”

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/298 "2012-05-14T19:20:53Z")

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> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> What would happen if, instead of simply pounding him into the floor, Hulk had tried to pull Loki’s arms off?

Then the movie would have been rated R.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/299 "2012-05-14T22:32:21Z")

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And, whoever has the trademark for Stretch Armstrong would’ve sued.

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**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/300 "2012-05-15T00:13:25Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> I saw it again on Friday, and this time I sat all the way through to the end. I loved the last scene. Did anyone else think it was a tribute to ‘[Big Night](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115678/)’?

While I love that movie tons, no.

Of all the things a Whedon/Marvel movie would reference, why a minor art house movie about food?

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