# OK, I've seen The Avengers - open spoilers! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 8, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234 "2012-05-08T01:37:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/101 "2012-05-09T15:30:51Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The bit with him crashing into the abandoned warehouse was also part of that. The guy who finds him tells him that he apparently aimed away from people while he was falling, which let Banner know that he still had some decency even as the Other Guy. I can see that being a handle that the can grasp for the next time. O.K., this is like the _fourth_ time I’ve read this on the SDMB- I don’t know if it’s always **Chronos** or if four different posters have said the same thing. It didn’t happen. Anybody prove me wrong with an exact quote of dialog and I will owe you a shoe shine. After seeing it twice, I can _paraphrase_ the dialog- thus I will bow to a correction including an exact quote. My paraphrase: Banner: Did I hurt anyone? The Original HD: Nobody around to hurt, except the pigeons. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/102 "2012-05-09T15:33:04Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > O.K., this is like the _fourth_ time I’ve read this on the SDMB- I don’t know if it’s always **Chronos** or if four different posters have said the same thing. > > It didn’t happen. Anybody prove me wrong with an exact quote of dialog and I will owe you a shoe shine. > > After seeing it twice, I can _paraphrase_ the dialog- thus I will bow to a correction including an exact quote. > > My paraphrase: > > Banner: Did I hurt anyone? > > The Original HD: Nobody around to hurt, except the pigeons. But the guy also says “You were awake when you fell.” I think it’s a deliberate implication that Hulk aimed away from populated areas, although obviously that’s up for interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/103 "2012-05-09T15:33:21Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > O.K., this is like the _fourth_ time I’ve read this on the SDMB- I don’t know if it’s always **Chronos** or if four different posters have said the same thing. > > It didn’t happen. Anybody prove me wrong with an exact quote of dialog and I will owe you a shoe shine. > > After seeing it twice, I can _paraphrase_ the dialog- thus I will bow to a correction including an exact quote. > > My paraphrase: > > Banner: Did I hurt anyone? > > The Original HD: Nobody around to hurt, except the pigeons. There was also a statement by the Original HD that implied he changed the direction of his falling - to avoid hurting people. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/104 "2012-05-09T15:40:05Z")
> [@simster](#): > > There was also a statement by the Original HD that implied he changed the direction of his falling - to avoid hurting people. The shoe shine is yours when you’ve got an exact quote of the dialog. Til then my shine box stays tucked under the bed. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/105 "2012-05-09T15:42:44Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Anyone care to explain to me how if Banner is “angry all the time” and can apparently control the Hulk so easily as he did in the final battle scene why he was so scared to turn into the Hulk throughout the whole movie? Just because a rodeo cowboy can ride the brahma bull, doesn’t mean he uses one to commute to work. Plus, it’s REAL hard on the wardrobe, and he doesn’t carry a change of clothes with him. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/106 "2012-05-09T15:42:55Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > The shoe shine is yours when you’ve got an exact quote of the dialog. > Til then my shine box stays tucked under the bed. It’s what I said in post 102, the comment that he was awake when he fell. It’s entirely possible that Banner interpreted that (as obviously many people in the audience did) to mean that he influenced the direction of his fall to avoid hitting anyone. No, it’s not directly stated. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/107 "2012-05-09T15:45:10Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > The shoe shine is yours when you’ve got an exact quote of the dialog. > Til then my shine box stays tucked under the bed. Shiny Tennis Shoes aren’t my thing - but the scene was there to establish that Banner/hulk had some control over his actions - that he targeted what appeared to be an abandoned building (not sure how he knew that) instead of a populated area. and to answer the greatest question of all times - where does he get those stretchy pants that never disappear? Apparently, they are delivered to him by well intentioned security gaurds of abandoned builidings. ---
**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/108 "2012-05-09T15:47:09Z")
Just curious, but how would Banner’s mind have influenced the direction of the fall? Once he had jumped off that jet, he is going to land where he is going to land, isn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/109 "2012-05-09T15:48:17Z")
> [@Bakhesh](#): > > Just curious, but how would Banner’s mind have influenced the direction of the fall? Once he had jumped off that jet, he is going to land where he is going to land, isn’t he? angle of body, a properly timed flatulance burst - ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/110 "2012-05-09T15:49:13Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > It’s what I said in post 102, the comment that he was awake when he fell. It’s entirely possible that Banner interpreted that (as obviously many people in the audience did) to mean that he influenced the direction of his fall to avoid hitting anyone. No, it’s not directly stated. Oh, I can accept there being room for some people to have made that interpretation, but each time I have read reference to it there is a explicit claim that HD told Banner that he aimed away from people to avoid hurting anyone. I’m saying that was never explicitly stated in the movie. I too have injected my _Avengers_ related posts with my own delightful brand of fan-wankery, but this whole “HD told Banner that he aimed away from people” thing is becoming a _truth_. Needless to say, I know to which scene I will be paying most attention when I go in for my third viewing. ---
**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/111 "2012-05-09T15:50:00Z")
> [@simster](#): > > angle of body, a properly timed flatulance burst - Normally I would think you were joking, but with hulkfarts who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/112 "2012-05-09T15:58:00Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Oh, I can accept there being room for some people to have made that interpretation, but each time I have read reference to it there is a explicit claim that HD told Banner that he aimed away from people to avoid hurting anyone. > > I’m saying that was never explicitly stated in the movie. > I too have injected my _Avengers_ related posts with my own delightful brand of fan-wankery, but this whole “HD told Banner that he aimed away from people” thing is becoming a _truth_. You’re mistaken. When Banner finds out the place was abandoned (except for pigeons) he says something like, “Dumb luck.” HDS says, “Or good aim, you were awake when you hit.” As an aside, I’d assume the Hulk has some level of control over a fall, since his hands are like manhole covers. Also, I don’t own dress shoes. So you can keep your polish box under the bed. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/113 "2012-05-09T15:59:29Z")
> [@Bakhesh](#): > > Normally I would think you were joking, but with hulkfarts who knows? Technically, we don’t truly know if the Hulk is a male. _ **“Hulk Queef!”** _ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/114 "2012-05-09T16:00:50Z")
> [@bakhesh](#): > > how would banner’s mind have influenced the direction of the fall? Once he had jumped off that jet, he is going to land where he is going to land, isn’t he? **Puny Laws Of Physics!** ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/115 "2012-05-09T16:10:10Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You’re mistaken. When Banner finds out the place was abandoned (except for pigeons) he says something like, “Dumb luck.” > > HDS says, “Or good aim, you were awake when you hit.” > > As an aside, I’d assume the Hulk has some level of control over a fall, since his hands are like manhole covers. Also, I don’t own dress shoes. So you can keep your polish box under the bed. 😃 Oooh! Excellent Quote-mining **Lobohan**! I remember that exchange, you’re right. I took that as a throwaway line. A folksy off-the-cuff response. Because I did not take it to be HD making a statement of fact, it did not stick with me the way it stuck with other people. I _still_ think it was just a folksy response. I don’t think it was “No, naked possible alien, don’t you understand? You _aimed_ for the abandoned warehouse!” _but_ I think it is valid for others to interpret it as a strong implication that Banner aimed the Hulk away from people. **Lobohan** is the winner of the shoe shine. Just because the shoe shine has been refused doesn’t been it goes to any possible runner-up. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/116 "2012-05-09T16:39:40Z")
> [@Marvel's Avengers - early reviews seem positive \[edited title\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/247): > > He leapt out of an airplane without a parachute. Okay, maybe that’s not exactly flying, but the man can FALL like nobody’s business. > > And I don’t mean to be rude, but you’re not going to persuade me that my opinion of the film’s representation of Thor’s or CA’s flaws is incorrect. Those characters just **felt** flatter and less interesting than Hulk or Iron Man (or, for that matter, Black Widow or Fury). Again, it may well have been the actors who lack the chops of Ruffalo or Downey; I dunno exactly. All I know is that they came across as much less compelling characters. You’re not being rude, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. We probably went in looking for two different movies. I thought Hemsworth and Evans were fine in their roles, and that the movie had to shrink character development for fear of being bogged down. I thought Thor was fine, but it really does help if you’ve seen his standalone movie, which is my favorite of all the five pre-avengers flicks. eta: quoted from the other thread ---
**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/117 "2012-05-09T16:52:32Z")
> [@Bakhesh](#): > > Just curious, but how would Banner’s mind have influenced the direction of the fall? Once he had jumped off that jet, he is going to land where he is going to land, isn’t he? Claps, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/118 "2012-05-09T17:19:38Z")
I missed the Legolas line completely. When does Stark say it? Another favorite line - the SHIELD fighter pilot, as he’s shooting at the Hulk: "Target is _very angry!"_ > [@carlb](#): > > … > I couldn’t _believe_ the number of people that left the theater after the Thanos reveal. People - STAY. UNITL. THE. END. The absolute end. The they’re-sweeping-up-the-popcorn end. The “what are you still doing here?” end… Most definitely. > [@drastic\_quench](#): > > Thor’s choice of the Chrysler Building a a perch for his lightning rod attack was stylistically perfect as it’s deco design would be right at home in Asgard. Yes. And I have to admit I felt some real estate envy for Stark’s view of the Chrysler Building and the rest of the Manhattan skyline, right out his huge windows. > [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > …The key for Banner is just maintaining a steady baseline, which is tricky no matter what - but for him, I guess it’s easier to maintain a steady level of pissed-off than Zen calm. Maybe he just continually reminds himself of the [insert hated political party here]'s 2012 campaign platform. > [@bienville](#): > > …I too have injected my _Avengers_ related posts with my own delightful brand of fan-wankery, but this whole “HD told Banner that he aimed away from people” thing is becoming a _truth_… Studies show it is now 83% truthiness. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/119 "2012-05-09T17:39:10Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I missed the Legolas line completely. When does Stark say it? Right before Tony grabbed him by the collar and took him to his perch above the fray. ---
**Author:** ![prodicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@prodicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prodicus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234/120 "2012-05-09T18:01:58Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Right before Tony grabbed him by the collar and took him to his perch above the fray. And he says neither “buckle up” nor “pucker up”. He says “clench up”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ive-seen-the-avengers-open-spoilers/621234.md?page=7)