# OK John Boehner, What's It Going to Be? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 4, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478 "2010-11-04T16:43:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/21 "2010-11-07T17:25:07Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Money is power. Since the Supreme Court works for them now, money is total power now. They can buy elections and politicians on a new scale. Didn’t work in CA, OR or WA. How’s that $140M hangover workin’ for ya, Meg ol’ girl? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/22 "2010-11-07T18:16:00Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Didn’t work in CA, OR or WA. How’s that $140M hangover workin’ for ya, Meg ol’ girl? If your candidate is bad enough, even the voters will be repulsed. You can not sell the people anything, just almost. But Sunday news shows showed the Republicans don’t get IT. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/23 "2010-11-07T19:01:55Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > If your candidate is bad enough, even the voters will be repulsed. You can not sell the people anything, just almost. > But Sunday news shows showed the Republicans don’t get IT. Well, I for one am shocked - _shocked_, I tell you. Wait, that’s just the coffee working. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/24 "2010-11-07T19:39:19Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Didn’t work in…WA. Well…perhaps not for Rossi, but Ballmer certainly got his. ETA: For those not familiar with WA election, Dino Rossi lost to Patty Murray. However, there was a ballot measure to raise taxes that got defeated; supposedly, Ballmer (from Microsoft) funded the opposition ad blitz. And now that it’s been defeated, he’s going to cash in something like $2B in stock. ETA2: Dammit. That should be “ballot measure to _institute_ taxes”, and only on those who make over a certain amount, as WA currently has no state tax. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/25 "2010-11-08T17:40:58Z")
Our beloved libertarian Paul came out today supporting earmarks. Big surprise. Why do people believe the repubs want a smaller government when they make it bigger every time they get in power? They lie to get elected . the party of fiscal responsibility is a joke, but our people keep buying it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/26 "2010-11-08T18:22:42Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Our beloved libertarian Paul came out today supporting earmarks. Big surprise. Why do people believe the repubs want a smaller government when they make it bigger every time they get in power? They lie to get elected . the party of fiscal responsibility is a joke, but our people keep buying it. Here is [a link](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704353504575596591626268782.html) to the Wall Street Journal interview, where the reporter says: > [@](#): > > In a bigger shift from his campaign pledge to end earmarks, he tells me that they are a bad “symbol” of easy spending but that he will fight for Kentucky’s share of earmarks and federal pork, as long as it’s doled out transparently at the committee level and not parachuted in in the dead of night. “I will advocate for Kentucky’s interests,” he says. Meet the new GOP, same as the old GOP. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/27 "2010-11-08T18:44:58Z")
[Per dollar of federal tax collected in 2005, Kentucky citizens received approximately $1.51 in the way of federal spending.](http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/topic/30.html) It strikes me that we need a constitutional Amendment to prevent welfare states like Kentucky from stealing MY federal tax dollars to support their lazy, good for nothing lifestyle. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/28 "2010-11-08T19:09:44Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Here is [a link](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704353504575596591626268782.html) to the Wall Street Journal interview, where the reporter says: > > Meet the new GOP, same as the old GOP. Wow - it only took a week for them to forget about their promise to end earmarks. I was expecting the new congress to get sworn in before the started breaking their promises. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/29 "2010-11-08T19:13:42Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Wow - it only took a week for them to forget about their promise to end earmarks. I was expecting the new congress to get sworn in before the started breaking their promises. They’re just being ultra-efficient, because they have to take time to focus on the #1 priority for the new Congress; Defeating Obama in 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/30 "2010-11-08T19:27:36Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > They’re just being ultra-efficient, because they have to take time to focus on the #1 priority for the new Congress; > > Defeating Obama in 2012. Hey, AND lowering _YOUR_ taxes! -Joe \*\*(for varying definitions of “you”) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/31 "2010-11-08T19:59:30Z")
Oh, fuck that! They got elected a week ago, already, where’s the prosperity? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/32 "2010-11-08T20:22:40Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I am sure John Boehner recognizes a simple fact, if, by the next Presidential election folks are working, the economy is back on track, folks are not losing their homes, etc. then Obama will be re-elected, it really is as simple as that. > > Yet, it has been made very clear that they would rather have hearings and work toward making Obama a one-term President. > > So am I to gather from this set of facts that the Republicans will do nothing to try and help the economy, nothing to try and create jobs, nothing to m ake the lives of Aemricans better? > > Because that’s what it seems like to me. What other conlcusion is there? Not to take Boehner’s side or anything, but I’m sure there were Republicans in 2004 who may have claimed that John Kerry wanted Americans to die in Iraq just so GWB could be defeated. I’m sure that John Kerry wanted no such thing, and I’m willing to bet that Boehner doesn’t want Americans to be poor and out of work. On the larger issue, I’m kind of surprised that there is so much shock that Republicans don’t want Obama re-elected. Really? Is that so shocking? I’m imagining the CNN breaking news headline now: “GOP wants Obama defeated; sun rises in the East.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/33 "2010-11-08T20:30:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Oh, fuck that! They got elected a week ago, already, where’s the prosperity? Now now, don’t rush things. I mean, the Tea Party protests began [four days after](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tea_Party_protests,_2009) Obama’s inauguration, so let’s give the new Congress until January 27 or so before we start protesting them. I’m sure the Tea Party will be on board demanding to know why the House has not reduced unemployment by then, or why they have not fixed the economy. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/34 "2010-11-08T20:33:51Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > On the larger issue, I’m kind of surprised that there is so much shock that Republicans don’t want Obama re-elected. Really? Is that so shocking? I’m imagining the CNN breaking news headline now: “GOP wants Obama defeated; sun rises in the East.” It’s not surprising that they want Obama defeated. It is surprising that they have articulated that this is their #1 concern, instead of fixing the economy, lowering unemployment, or any one of a number of other things that seem to be important. It seems that they may have been better served to have put this in a different way. Eg. “Our number one concern is to get the economy functioning again at all levels, and by doing this show that our methods are the correct ones, and that the public should vote in a Republican president in 2012.” Essentially, they seem to have mistaken “getting elected” for “governing” ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/35 "2010-11-09T21:57:12Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Essentially, they seem to have mistaken “getting elected” for “governing” That’s okay. The Democrats did the inverse. Converse. Inverse? Converse? -Joe InConverse? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-john-boehner-whats-it-going-to-be/559478/36 "2010-11-09T22:07:57Z")
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