# Ok, Kim Jong Un, you stupid son of a bitch

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288 "2013-03-07T13:40:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Oliveritaly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oliveritaly/32/15233_2.png) [@Oliveritaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oliveritaly)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/221 "2013-03-13T05:40:21Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> Not to mention, with good English skills your National Service conscription can be as a KATUSA, or Korean Augmentation To United States Army. these folks helped us when we had to go into the local environment. For us it was as reporters, covering part of the local area, it was nice to have someone in uniform who spoke Korean and knew all the customs and courtesies we may have missed.

So you were a 46Q/PAO? What year and where? I was in Tague as a PAO from 94 to 96.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/222 "2013-03-13T08:40:10Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> She found things more militaristic than the USA and had a laugh when they told her to dress up nicely for her visit to the border since the PRK telephoto cameras took photos of poorly clad visitors and then used them as propaganda.

If Soul has a Walmart and the North has some good telephoto lenses they should be able to get enough propaganda for the next milenium or two…

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/223 "2013-03-13T08:52:03Z")

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[Wal-Mart left South Korea in 2006](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-mart#Competition). All of their properties were purchased by [Shinsegae and added to their E-Mart chain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Mart).

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/224 "2013-03-13T10:26:47Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> I love the air drops of food solution.
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> Sure, the military could try to confiscate it all, say its poisoned, imprison people but that will only work for a short period.
> 
> Same thing with saying they are doing the dropping.
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> As to the act of agression? Let them try and claim that - let’s see the response if they actually try to shoot down one such plane. I wouldn’t think it would be pretty.

I didn’t see the obvious answer to this, but not only was a U-2 plane shot down over the Soviet Union, but a U-2 was shot down by missiles over Cuba during the missile crisis 50 years ago. Obviously there are precedents and in reality little was done.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/225 "2013-03-13T13:00:03Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> If Soul has a Walmart and the North has some good telephoto lenses they should be able to get enough propaganda for the next milenium or two…

Seoul. But then they’d have to explain why all of the Americans were so fat.

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/226 "2013-03-13T13:19:46Z")

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> [@Oliveritaly](#):
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> So you were a 46Q/PAO? What year and where? I was in Tague as a PAO from 94 to 96.

Nope, I was a 3N0. In Army terms I guess that’s a 46R?

Broadcaster stationed at AFKN. I was at Yongsan from 87 to 88, 91 to 93 and 95 to 96.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/227 "2013-03-13T13:20:53Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Seoul. But then they’d have to explain why all of the Americans were so fat.

Its all that unhealthy southern “soul” food 🙂

you guys are so predictable some times

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/228 "2013-03-13T13:46:10Z")

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Well, when their latest thing is to claim there are no birds in the USA because we’ve eaten them all and we’re starving (hey, just like them!), explaining why all the Americans are so fat would be a bit difficult.

Of course, the next phase would be inciting Anti-American Cannibalistic Sentiments.

_ **Eat the Americans!** _

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/229 "2013-03-13T13:53:05Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Well, when their latest thing is to claim there are no birds in the USA because we’ve eaten them all and we’re starving (hey, just like them!), explaining why all the Americans are so fat would be a bit difficult.
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> Of course, the next phase would be inciting Anti-American Cannibalistic Sentiments.
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> _ **Eat the Americans!** _

I bet we are delicious.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/230 "2013-03-13T13:55:19Z")

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And loaded with transfats, sodium, and nicotine.

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**Author:** ![Oliveritaly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oliveritaly/32/15233_2.png) [@Oliveritaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oliveritaly)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/231 "2013-03-13T14:10:40Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> Nope, I was a 3N0. In Army terms I guess that’s a 46R?
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> Broadcaster stationed at AFKN. I was at Yongsan from 87 to 88, 91 to 93 and 95 to 96.

Yeah it’s a 46R. I’m assuming, maybe incorrectly, you were Navy. Don’t you all do both tracks at DINFOS though?

I was the editor down in Tague back then.

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**Author:** ![Weeping\_Wyvern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@Weeping\_Wyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weeping_Wyvern)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/232 "2013-03-13T14:57:39Z")

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> [@Sarabellum1976](#):
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> Would the US actually strike back with a nuclear weapon on all those poor defenseless brainwashed people? All that collateral damage? Even if we DID take a direct hit from one of their nukes (which would take a miracle, all things considered) would we really nuke Pyongyang as a matter of principal?
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> I mean, the nukes we have at our disposal these days make the ones we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki look like cherry bombs. And 70 years later, don’t most Americans still feel guilty about all those Japanese people killed (let’s not forget the ones that died later - very unpleasant way to go, radiation poisoning)… could we REALLY do that again? It just seems like such a bad idea.
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> What would the rest of the world think about us? They already think we’re the United Thugs of America with the Iraq/Afghanistan war that’s been dragging on.
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> “But THEY started it!!” is not going to impress many people for very long.

Indeed. I think it’s by no means a given that the U.S. would/should respond with nuclear weapons.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/233 "2013-03-13T20:34:54Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> And loaded with transfats, sodium, and nicotine.

And asbestos.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/234 "2013-03-14T02:28:51Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> I bet we are delicious.

Of course.  
But Canadians are maple flavored.

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**Author:** ![Stately\_Greek\_Automaton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Stately\_Greek\_Automaton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stately_Greek_Automaton)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/235 "2013-03-14T03:57:50Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> If Soul has a Walmart and the North has some good telephoto lenses they should be able to get enough propaganda for the next milenium or two…

I’d love to see the propaganda that People of Walmart would spur.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/236 "2013-03-14T05:28:37Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Oh, nobody in South Korea–other than the Japanese who live there–says “Susan san,” not even to Susan.

Clearly, Susan was speaking, not with a South Korean, but rather with a Japanese illegal immigrant who was being taken advantage of by an unethical employer.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/237 "2013-03-14T05:39:16Z")

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😃

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/238 "2013-03-14T15:40:26Z")

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And now the little dork is supervising [artillery drills](http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/14/17306764-kim-jong-un-supervises-north-korea-artillery-drills-near-disputed-border-with-south?lite) near the border. Nothing could possibly go wrong. :smack:

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**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/239 "2013-03-14T19:38:30Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Just about an hour ago, I heard on CCTV (China’s State-run television “news” station) some high mucketymuck in their government. She said that “all parties are encouraged to keep stability on the peninsula.” That’s what China wants. Stability. It doesn’t have a damn thing to do with how communist/liberal/democratic/paradaisical/American/whatever the country next to them is. China has democracies right now on their border and they’re not bent out of shape–or bent at all-by their presence. What China wants is one thing and one thing only in North Korea: Stability. That’s Stability as in lack of change.

And that’s where North Korea’s current strategy is likely to backfire. They’re threatening both aggressive action against South Korea and first-strike use of nuclear weapons against the US - either of which would undermine the stability of the region which China holds so dear. What possible interest would China have in a Korean War v 2.0? None whatsoever.

Add to that that the nuclear saber rattling, while currently directed at the US, also poses a direct risk to China. Now right now I doubt North Korea could lob a nuclear warhead any further than I could spit. But IF they should develop the capacity to hit US soil with nuclear weapons - well, any missile that can hit US territory can also hit Beijing. Right now North Korea sounds like a mugger: “Hand over your food and fuel oil shipments, or I’ll nuke you!” It won’t be lost on the Chinese leadership that such threats could be turned against them just as easily in the future.

North Korea was useful to China as long as it remained an obedient little lapdog. Now that the lapdog has slipped its leash and seemingly turned rabid to boot, China has more and more reasons to want to see Kim’s regime squashed. If this keeps up, I don’t think things are going to end well for North Korea.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/240 "2013-03-14T22:02:39Z")

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I don’t think North Korea has ever been “an obedient little lapdog” to anyone. The amount of crazy in their ruling elite would, ISTM, preclude that.

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