# Ok, Kim Jong Un, you stupid son of a bitch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288 "2013-03-07T13:40:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/141 "2013-03-09T18:08:31Z")
Why is everyone so FUCKING STUPID?? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/142 "2013-03-09T20:12:29Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > One and the same Korean letter ㄹ does double duty for both [r] and [l], depending on position: > When it comes before a consonant or at the end of a word, it comes out as [l]. > When it’s between two vowels, it becomes [r]. > > Koryŏ 고려 (or Goryeo) has it as [r] because the sequence “yŏ” is counted as a vowel sound in Korean. > > Edit: > Which is the technically linguistic term for it, “complementary” meaning that where conditions allow the pronunciation of [l], then [r] becomes impossible, and vice versa. While “contrastive” as in English means they make the difference between two words that are otherwise exactly the same, as in _fly_ vs. _fry_. Thank you, that I actually understood! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/143 "2013-03-09T21:08:47Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Pretty bold of you to say that after showing yourself to be a complete idiot in a recent GD thread, not understanding a simple point I made (just for a recent example of your rampant stupidity). I understood it perfectly well. You were the one with the problem, Rand. Your entire life is based on an unjustified sense of superiority engendered by a shitty novel you read when you were a pimply child. And it seems you’ve had precious little development since then. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/144 "2013-03-09T21:36:43Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > :rolleyes: I like the part where you get on me for threadshitting and say absolutely nothing to Lobohan or Marley23. Homygod, this is hilarious. Is yanceylebeef Official Thread Mother or something? On Reddit, there was a picture of two South Korean soldiers holding hands while opening a door and the reason given in the comments was that it’s the door to a neutral room on the border and soldiers in the past have been yanked through by North Korean soldiers. I’m officially mind-boggled. A lot of people agreed that it was true but I almost literally cannot believe that one country is just pulling people across in some fucked up game of totalitarian Red Rover. And if they are doing that, why the hell is the procedure, “hold hands, guys.” and not some sort of harness and rope system? ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/145 "2013-03-09T22:43:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > To give an idea of the actual military capabilities of North Korea, as opposed to their claimed capabilities, I’ll point to their navy. They have a fleet of 708 vessels, which sounds impressive. But then you note that the fleet is divided into an East Sea Command and a West Sea Command - that’s because none of their ships can travel more than a few dozen miles out to sea, so they can’t travel from one coast of North Korea to the other. Not that I’m disagreeing with you on the state of NK’s military, but isn’t geography a major part of the division as well. I’ve been unable to find any maps were the maritime boundaries are marked, but by just looking at the area in Google maps I get the impression that there is no way to leave the Sea of Japan without entering either South Korean, Japanese or Russian territorial waters. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/146 "2013-03-09T23:33:49Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Really? Did they just shove it up his ass and detonate it, or shoot it at normally? That’s the kind of outside the box effort that makes you stand out as a tyrannical madman. No, no - he \*was \*the mortar round. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/147 "2013-03-09T23:34:56Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I understood it perfectly well. You were the one with the problem, Rand. > > Your entire life is based on an unjustified sense of superiority engendered by a shitty novel you read when you were a pimply child. And it seems you’ve had precious little development since then. Nope. That thread speaks for itself–you got all flustered based on an idiotic interpretation of my post that had nothing to do with the plain meaning that was obvious to everyone else. And I didn’t read anything from Ayn Rand until I was in my 30s and my opinions on these matters were well-developed. I was happy to finally find something that was echoing my thoughts. So, congratulations, you are wrong once again. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/148 "2013-03-09T23:36:01Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Homygod, this is hilarious. Is yanceylebeef Official Thread Mother or something? You don’t find it odd that he singles me out for threadshitting? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/149 "2013-03-09T23:39:32Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I was commenting on what sounded like an isolationist strain in **SirGalahad** ’s comments. Also- > > YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWN. There’s nothing isolationist about libertarianism. Really libertarianism just doesn’t have much to say about foreign policy–it’s a political philosophy about running a society. That’s why I made the comment I did–you just characterized his assumed position as “libertarian” for basically no reason at all out of your ignorance of libertarianism. ---
**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/150 "2013-03-10T00:02:57Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Seriously. Makes me have just a tinge of affection for the little shit. I appreciate creativity - even in madmen. It’s not an entirely new mode of execution - the British in India had [a somewhat similar idea](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowing_from_a_gun) (inherited from the Mughals, IIRC). ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/151 "2013-03-10T00:58:28Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Nope. That thread speaks for itself–you got all flustered based on an idiotic interpretation of my post that had nothing to do with the plain meaning that was obvious to everyone else. > > And I didn’t read anything from Ayn Rand until I was in my 30s and my opinions on these matters were well-developed. I was happy to finally find something that was echoing my thoughts. So, congratulations, you are wrong once again. There is nothing precluding you from being a pimply child in your 30s. You’re a child throwing a tantrum _now_. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/152 "2013-03-10T03:53:20Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Homygod, this is hilarious. Is yanceylebeef Official Thread Mother or something? > On Reddit, there was a picture of two South Korean soldiers holding hands while opening a door and the reason given in the comments was that it’s the door to a neutral room on the border and soldiers in the past have been yanked through by North Korean soldiers. I’m officially mind-boggled. A lot of people agreed that it was true but I almost literally cannot believe that one country is just pulling people across in some fucked up game of totalitarian Red Rover. And if they are doing that, why the hell is the procedure, “hold hands, guys.” and not some sort of harness and rope system? Sorry, just checked out that picture - I would definitely want a rope and harness not someone holding my hand :eek: While I would love to tour parts of North Korea, there is no way I would support the country by spending any money there. [To be honest, I try not to buy any products of North Korea nor any edibles made with any components from China.] ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/153 "2013-03-10T06:37:35Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > You don’t find it odd that he singles me out for threadshitting? What, an antagonistic whiny poster gets called on it in the pit? I’m ever so shocked. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/154 "2013-03-10T06:41:07Z")
And in other news, United States _still_ not nuclear attacked by North Korea. Stay tuned! ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/155 "2013-03-10T07:03:35Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Really? Did they just shove it up his ass and detonate it, or shoot it at normally? That’s the kind of outside the box effort that makes you stand out as a tyrannical madman. As reported, Un’s instructions were “destroy him - leave nothing, not even a hair”. I don’t know who came up with the mortar idea - but the mortar was dialed in to a specific spot and the General was told to “stand here”. Don’t know if they had the humor to give him a catcher’s mitt. ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/156 "2013-03-10T11:37:48Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Sorry, just checked out that picture - I would definitely want a rope and harness not someone holding my hand :eek: > > While I would love to tour parts of North Korea, there is no way I would support the country by spending any money there. [To be honest, I try not to buy any products of North Korea nor any edibles made with any components from China.] I’m not familiar with Reddit, so my search was for “Korean Soldier yadda yadda” Among the pics was a pic of what was represented as 3 plain, everyday soldiers: US, N Korean, S. Korean. the N.K. soldier was in the middle - it looked like 2 adults flanking an 8th Grader. Really. He barely reached the shoulders of the other 2. If those were the people trying to pull one of those soldiers someplace he did not want to go, a hand grip by another adult would probably suffice. I want to know where that pic came from - none were armed, so probably not Color Guards. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/157 "2013-03-10T19:14:08Z")
Got the picture, I think. [![](https://i.imgur.com/j5qCAPs.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/j5qCAPs.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/158 "2013-03-10T19:22:14Z")
That’s from a piece Lisa Ling did for Her “our America” show. Really worth the watch - it’s on You Tube, I think. She had gone there obstensably as a camera covering a humanitarian eye surgery trip, removing cataracts from people who have been blind for years. There’s lots of good stuff in there, but the creepiest thing was that, as the bandages were removed from their eyes and they could see, the first thing the patients did was to approach the pictures of Sung and Il and bow and weep and thank them and praise them for allowing them to see again. No thought for the doc (who did 1000 surgeries in 10 days) or, you know, medical science or anything. Just complete, wacked out praise for a leader who had kept them starving and stupid and in pain. I went on a North Korea jag yesterday, and watched that and some other short docs, and read Nothing to Envy. It’s so far beyond my understanding of what Stalin and Mao were like. I don’t know if we as a society have any real understanding of how to combat that kind of crazy on such a large scale. But I’m truly pissed that anyone has to live that way in 2013, and I think I could get behind a violent effort to make it stop. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/159 "2013-03-10T19:42:37Z")
Sateryn76 - So you travel to North Korea? The title of the book Nothing to Envy is so ironic. For those that have not read the book, there are billboards in NK saying that THEY have nothing to envy. > [@Sateryn7](#): > > But I’m truly pissd that anyone has to live that way in 2013, and I think I could get behind a violent effort to make it stop. I’m pissed too. I had a bowl of rice last night as a snack. It would have been more than most people in NK get in a day. I disagree that a ‘violent effort’ is going to work. Information is the key. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288/160 "2013-03-10T20:11:29Z")
Not doubting the veracity of the story but are mortars super-sonic? In other words do you hear them coming before they land on you? It’s always depicted with a whizzing sound in movies before they land which would only be possible if the mortar was going slower than sound. I’m wondering if the General could hear what was coming. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-kim-jong-un-you-stupid-son-of-a-bitch/652288.md?page=9)