# Ok, so...a commode...

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**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128 "2012-06-05T04:34:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/1 "2012-06-05T04:34:24Z")

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Somehow I’ve gone the last 45 years knowing commode was another word for toilet.

So I was surprised to find an advertisement for a 6-drawer commode.

All I could think of was maybe it was a piece of bathroom furniture.

Apparantly, it’s a 6-drawer chest-type thing, has nothing to do with the bathroom, and has never been a word synonymous with toilet.  
So…

:smack::smack::smack::smack:

How the hell did this happen? Any other words it took you decades to figure out? 😛 And why the HELL do I swear my grandmother regularly said she had to use the commode… WTF? Did I imagine that? Or was she really just rummaging around for socks?  
And, just to make me feel stupider, a search for a second opinion on the word reveals it DOES mean toilet…so I feel a little less stupid about the last 45 years, but doubly stupid over the last 10 minutes or so. :p:p

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/2 "2012-06-05T04:42:02Z")

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[Well, would you look at that?](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/commode) I always thought of a commode as the second to third definitions, so it’s not wrong. It’s just not the only thing. Apparently it’s also a kind of hat!

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**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/3 "2012-06-05T04:42:24Z")

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If I remember right, (and that’s a big if,) a commode is a curved chest. it’s also a toilet.  
Once in our writing group a guy was really proud of his science fiction story with the futuristic wording _com mode_ depicting a means of communication. I had to point it out for his own good.

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**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/4 "2012-06-05T04:48:09Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> [Well, would you look at that?](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/commode) I always thought of a commode as the second to third definitions, so it’s not wrong. It’s just not the only thing. Apparently it’s also a kind of hat!

Then meaning No. 2 (heh heh. heh heh.) explains how the word was transferred from wood to porcelain.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/5 "2012-06-05T04:48:56Z")

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A hat!! And a science-fiction reference! I feel so much better, thank you 😃

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/6 "2012-06-05T06:13:57Z")

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Note that “commode” is from the Latin _commodus_, meaning “convenient,” and that a public toilet is sometimes called a “convenience.”

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/7 "2012-06-05T07:20:38Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> [Well, would you look at that?](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/commode) I always thought of a commode as the second to third definitions, so it’s not wrong. It’s just not the only thing. Apparently it’s also a kind of hat!

Ah, yes…[_Motel of the Mysteries_](http://pannonica.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/scatagories/#more-2158).

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**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/8 "2012-06-05T11:06:46Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> Apparently it’s also a kind of hat!

I no longer need to be embarrassed that I spent much of my Twenties with my head in a commode after a long night of irresponsible drinking. It’s a party hat!

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/9 "2012-06-05T11:15:58Z")

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I understood the two connotations are related. The curved cabinet was originally developed to hold a chamber pot.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/10 "2012-06-05T18:57:55Z")

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Welp, it’s time for my morning constitutional, care to join me?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/11 "2012-06-05T19:26:53Z")

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Wait, that was some lady’s hat? Now I feel really bad.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/12 "2012-06-05T19:30:36Z")

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Well, whatever you do, don’t get them mixed up.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/13 "2012-06-05T19:34:26Z")

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I’ll try to keep that in mind in the future.

_Slinks out of room, whistling the “I didn’t do it” song_

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/14 "2012-06-05T19:57:26Z")

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I seem to recall a couple of years ago, right after the economy tanked, a huge deal was made about the CEO of Merrill Lynch buying a $35,000 commode for his office, most people thinking of course, that it was a toilet.

It turned out to actually be an antique chest of drawers.

Ahh, here’s a story on it.

[http://consumerist.com/2009/01/thains-35000-commode-on-legs-actually-chest-of-drawers.html](http://consumerist.com/2009/01/thains-35000-commode-on-legs-actually-chest-of-drawers.html)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/15 "2012-06-05T20:50:02Z")

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Fun fact: If it’s large enough to have six drawers, you could call it a commodious commode.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/16 "2012-06-05T21:03:47Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
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> I understood the two connotations are related. The curved cabinet was originally developed to hold a chamber pot.

Actually, it’s very hard to find a formal English word for the porcelain fixture that doesn’t have an original meaning that amounts to a euphemism.

“commode” – the cabinet in which the chamber pot was kept

“toilet” – the hygiene, beauty, and clothing regime or process that one goes through to prepare for the day or the entire room where that happens

“WC” – the water closet is the curved-pipe-and-standing-water apparatus that blocks odors from drifting back into the room

“lavatory” – is a washbasin, so it’s really the sink, not the crapper

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-a-commode/624128/17 "2012-06-06T09:16:13Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Actually, it’s very hard to find a formal English word for the porcelain fixture that doesn’t have an original meaning that amounts to a euphemism.

I believe that Cecil did an article (maybe the one on Thomas Crapper?) in which he stated that the porcelain device had no name that was not a euphemism and therefore neither did the room that held it.
