# Ok, so what the hell happened in Germany in NYE? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 8, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538 "2016-01-08T23:28:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/761 "2016-02-06T14:38:33Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > She got a kiss on the cheek and she said it was the custom at this time of year That’s not what the article said. She was kissed on the neck, no mention of a “custom” and someone groped her breast. Where did you get your completely different version? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/762 "2016-02-06T14:52:44Z")
When one has an utterly relentless grip on truth, substantiation is superfluous. Facts are for the weak. ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/763 "2016-02-06T16:35:44Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > That’s not what the article said. She was kissed on the neck, no mention of a “custom” and someone groped her breast. Where did you get your completely different version? I watched a video linc ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/764 "2016-02-06T16:47:04Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > That has nothing to do with the article you linked to. Re read posts 744 & 745 ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/765 "2016-02-06T16:48:17Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > I watched a video linc Well that was clearly a different incident. Read the article. The station she works for filed a criminal complaint. ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/766 "2016-02-06T16:58:06Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > That’s not what the article said. She was kissed on the neck, no mention of a “custom” and someone groped her breast. Where did you get your completely different version? Checked the video link the one I watched which I commented on and a picture of another reporter getting her ear kissed she did report that she was sexually abused but there was not a photo, she did say that they understood when she shouted at them in English, but that could be anyone. I do not care what their race creed or colour is those who abuse woman should go to prison ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/767 "2016-02-06T18:18:13Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > I’m so glad rape doesn’t exist in the US. I’m so glad that no one is actually saying this, but I’m not so glad about your mysoginistic denials/apologies/false eqilivilencies. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/768 "2016-02-06T19:56:49Z")
> **[Regressive left](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regressive_left)** > > The regressive left (also called regressive liberals or regressive leftists) is a term for a branch of left-wing politics that is accused of being accepting of or sympathetic to views that conflict with liberal principles, particularly by tolerating Islamism. > The British political activist Maajid Nawaz,\[note 1\] American political talk-show hosts such as Bill Maher and Dave Rubin,\[note 2\] and New Atheist writers like Sam Harris\[note 3\] and Richard Dawkins are among those who have used the term... ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/769 "2016-02-06T21:21:28Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > I’m so glad that no one is actually saying this, but I’m not so glad about your mysoginistic denials/apologies/false eqilivilencies. The poster quoted another poster who linked to an article about a rape. He then said something along the lines of “this is what happens when your culture is misogynist.” It was a stupid thing to say-- rape happens just about everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/770 "2016-02-06T23:59:49Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > This is a problem when you have a culture where woman and girls are subservient to men I sincerely doubt you know any Muslims whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/771 "2016-02-07T00:52:41Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > The poster quoted another poster who linked to an article about a rape. He then said something along the lines of “this is what happens when your culture is misogynist.” It was a stupid thing to say-- rape happens just about everywhere. Do we know if the incidence varies significantly between cultures? ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/772 "2016-02-07T01:28:35Z")
Not just Germany, Europe A world divided: Violent clashes break out across the globe as thousands take to the streets in anti-Islam protests organised by far-right group PEGIDA Protesters have clashed with immigration supporters and police forces during planned far-right demonstrations Organised by anti-Islam group PEGIDA, cities across Europe and Australia saw thousands take to the streets The confrontational rallies were held in cities that included Prague, Amsterdam, Dresden, Calais and Canberra Former English Defence League (EDL) leader Tommy Robinson joined 200 supporters at a rally in Birmingham By Corey Charlton and Anthony Joseph for MailOnline Published: 17:06, 6 February 2016 | Updated: 22:58, 6 February 2016 Read more: [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435093/A-world-divided-Violent-clashes-break-globe-thousands-streets-anti-Islam-protests-organised-far-right-group-PEGIDA.html#ixzz3zRPwmokv](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435093/A-world-divided-Violent-clashes-break-globe-thousands-streets-anti-Islam-protests-organised-far-right-group-PEGIDA.html#ixzz3zRPwmokv) Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook This is not going to go away without drastic action ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/773 "2016-02-07T01:36:36Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > The poster quoted another poster who linked to an article about a rape. He then said something along the lines of “this is what happens when your culture is misogynist.” It was a stupid thing to say-- rape happens just about everywhere. Even worse - the original comment referred to a cultural belief that women who were dressed a certain way were "fair game. " "She was asking for it, the way she was dressed! " is a sentence that had unfortunately been heard in the US. ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/774 "2016-02-07T01:43:07Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > I sincerely doubt you know any Muslims whatsoever. Wrong I support a group called One Law for All, They have many Muslim woman supporters fighting for the equal rights that they are entitled to under U.K. law but are denied those rights by Muslim men under Sharia Law. Not all Muslim men treat their wives badly and some who I have spoken to have agree that there is a problem that needs addressing ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/775 "2016-02-07T11:03:48Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > Re read posts 744 & 745 Eh? Post 744: > [@elucidator](#): > > They’ll let me have one? With like, rockets and stuff? Post 745: > [@octopus](#): > > I’ll take a jet. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/776 "2016-02-07T11:06:26Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > Not just Germany, Europe > > A world divided: Violent clashes break out across the globe as thousands take to the streets in anti-Islam protests organised by far-right group PEGIDA > Protesters have clashed with immigration supporters and police forces during planned far-right demonstrations > Organised by anti-Islam group PEGIDA, cities across Europe and Australia saw thousands take to the streets > The confrontational rallies were held in cities that included Prague, Amsterdam, Dresden, Calais and Canberra > Former English Defence League (EDL) leader Tommy Robinson joined 200 supporters at a rally in Birmingham > > By Corey Charlton and Anthony Joseph for MailOnline > > Published: 17:06, 6 February 2016 | Updated: 22:58, 6 February 2016 > Read more: [PEGIDA take to the streets in anti-Islam protests across the globe | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435093/A-world-divided-Violent-clashes-break-globe-thousands-streets-anti-Islam-protests-organised-far-right-group-PEGIDA.html#ixzz3zRPwmokv) > Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook > > This is not going to go away without drastic action Oh good, yet another wholesale cut and paste from an alarmist Daily Fail article. Clearly we need to support your preferred right wing policies then. ---
**Author:** ![T.M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ad7895/32.png) [@T.M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.M)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/777 "2016-02-07T19:16:35Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Oh good, yet another wholesale cut and paste from an alarmist Daily Fail article. Clearly we need to support your preferred right wing policies then. The left wing policies are not working are they ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/778 "2016-02-07T20:13:10Z")
So of course the only logical thing to do is push the pendulum all the way in the other direction. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/779 "2016-02-07T21:11:54Z")
> [@T.M](#): > > The left wing policies are not working are they This statement is so meaningless I’m not sure why I bother to respond. Which left wing policies? Which countries? And just how do you feel they are not working? I mean, I’m vaguely hoping it’s not the UK you are referring to, seeing as the tories have been in power for 6 years. So is it Germany you refer to? And their market driven policy of encouraging immigration to deal with the ever aging workforce they have their? You think that’s leftwing, perhaps? And preferably you’ll attempt to clarify these points without just cutting and pasting an entire Daily Mail op-ed, with a one line portentous soundbite tagged on at the end. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-so-what-the-hell-happened-in-germany-in-nye/742538/780 "2016-02-07T21:19:13Z")
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