# OK then - what's the most beautiful car (all time)?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 22, 2001, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401 "2001-07-22T04:34:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2001, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/21 "2001-07-22T22:47:25Z")

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Most beautiful: The **Lamborghini Diablo** (even better than the Countach!)

Ugliest? Without a doubt, the **AMC Matador**. Ugly from the front, back and side!

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**Author:** ![Santos\_L\_Halper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/santos_l_halper/32/1_2.png) [@Santos\_L\_Halper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santos_L_Halper)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2001, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/22 "2001-07-22T23:56:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Speleophile \*  
> **The GT40 is great looking, but I wasn’t aware you could actually buy one for the street.**

Yep, there was a street version. [This site](http://www.gt40.org.uk/Features/Brochure.htm) has a copy of the sales brochure. They recommend the prospective purchaser travel to the factory to have the car fitted specifically to him, and so he can decide what gear ratios he wants. 🙂

Eric

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**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/23 "2001-07-23T00:01:34Z")

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Has to be a '57 Chevy Nomad Bel Aire.

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**Author:** ![City\_Gent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a87d85/32.png) [@City\_Gent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/City_Gent)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/24 "2001-07-23T00:13:08Z")

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Gonna come from left field here and nominate the Mazda MX-6. It looks exactly what a sporty yet affordable 1990’s-vintage coupe should look like. Classically simple and flowing without looking like a jellybean. On the other hand, I’d never buy one.

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**Author:** ![Booker57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Booker57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Booker57)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/25 "2001-07-23T00:15:14Z")

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1957 M/B 300SL Gull wing coupe.  
Straight six engine. Direct mechanical fuel injection.

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**Author:** ![Swede\_Hollow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Swede\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swede_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/26 "2001-07-23T02:29:24Z")

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I agree with **Spritle** on the Pantera, although I’ve always known it as a DeTomaso, not a Ford. I also think the earlier Volkswagen Sciroccos and the DeLoreans were pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/27 "2001-07-23T02:35:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by K. Daniel \*  
> \*\*A few of its little cousins and siblings have been mentioned already, but the most beautiful car I’ve ever seen is my uncle’s 67 Shelby GT500. \*\*

Hello, Elanor.

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/28 "2001-07-23T02:54:51Z")

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Corvair Corsa convertable

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**Author:** ![nick112](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecc23a/32.png) [@nick112](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nick112)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/29 "2001-07-23T05:06:47Z")

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dodge viper

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/30 "2001-07-23T17:57:33Z")

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I’d have to go with the '37 Talbot Lago [http://www.web-cars.com/pbeach/Talbot\_Lago/index.html](http://www.web-cars.com/pbeach/Talbot_Lago/index.html) or the 1960 Aston Martin DB4 Zagoto [http://www.amoc-na.org/db4gtz/index.shtml](http://www.amoc-na.org/db4gtz/index.shtml)

They both have curves that are downright sinful!

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/31 "2001-07-23T18:59:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Speleophile \*  
> The 240Z was a good looking car, but it’s styling is a ripoff of the XKE.  
> \*\*

Very true, but IMHO the 240 looks nicer. The only really nice looking things the British **ever** put out IMHO is the Lotus Esprit and Elizabeth Hurley.

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**Author:** ![Tyklfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@Tyklfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyklfe)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/32 "2001-07-23T21:21:43Z")

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Olds’ [442 W-30 Convertable](http://www.442.com/vcs/oldsowners.html)

good lord yes…

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**Author:** ![Tyklfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@Tyklfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyklfe)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/33 "2001-07-23T21:38:18Z")

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ummm…that would be the 69 442 btw…  
dang preview button

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2001, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/34 "2001-07-23T22:36:46Z")

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I"m terribly disappointed that no one mentioned the Porsche 911 Turbo - any year. The fact that their design hasn’t changed (drastically) is the best part.

If I were forced to pick a second one, I’d probably go with the Mitsubishi 3000GT Spi(y?)der. I had tears in my eyes when I found out they weren’t being made anymore.

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**Author:** ![Skwerl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Skwerl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skwerl)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2001, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/35 "2001-07-24T03:17:32Z")

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93+ Mazda RX-7 twin turbo  
Porsche 993/996 (aka 911 1995-98/99-present)…especially turbo versions  
Ferrari 550  
Saleen S7  
Porsche 944(turbo/s2)/968 (though no one I know would place them even in the top 20, for some reason)  
Newer Vipers

As far as Panteras go, it was a joint effort between Ford and DeTomaso, with most of the parts, including the big engine, being Ford. I think.

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**Author:** ![Chas.E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@Chas.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chas.E)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2001, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/36 "2001-07-24T04:14:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Speleophile \*  
> \*\*ChasE, the 351C was far from the strongest engine available in the 69/70 Mustangs. Also available was the 390GT/325HP engine, and the 428CJ/335HP. I’m not sure Ford’s flagship monster, the 427 dual-quad, could be had in Mustings those years, or ever, but the 429 could. If you’re telling me your '65 could outrun a Boss 429, either you or your car must be on nitrous oxide! 😃 \*\*

Yeah, I know, I said I could beat any Mach 1, and they never came with anything larger than the 351C. Of course, a Boss 302 or a Boss 429 is another story. And they aren’t Mach 1s either.  
I know I can stomp a 351C because I once passed a '70 Mach 1 with the 351C that was trying to stop me from passing by driving at top speed on a dangerous 2 lane road. He’d get up to about 110mph on the passing zones and then slow down below 45 on the no-passing zones. What an asshole. I finally managed to get the better of him, I got in the passing lane and just as we both had our accelerators floored, doing about 110, and I was doing about 3mph better than he was, a farm tractor towing a hayrack pulled onto the road from the shoulder in the incoming lane, I had to stomp on the brakes, I did a double-360 spinout in the middle of a cornfield, coming to rest about 2 feet from a telephone pole. Darn it, I knew I should have had those disc brakes balanced, it always did pull to the right. When I came to a stop, the silence was deafening, I thought I’d killed the engine but I discovered I had my foot on the clutch and it was still going. My passenger was astonished, he said he’d never seen anything as masterful as my driving through that spinout, handling the clutch and not even killing the engine. I never ever did anything that crazy again. Well, maybe once when I crossed Kansas at an average speed of 135. But that’s another story.

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2001, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/37 "2001-07-24T14:49:13Z")

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Is the _masterful driving_ you putting the clutch in when you hit the brake (which should be instinct) or getting into a spin in a cornfield in the first place? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![El\_Zagna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@El\_Zagna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Zagna)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2001, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/38 "2001-07-24T18:35:22Z")

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The original Mustang. Good, well balanced lines that still look perfect some 40 years later.

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**Author:** ![Spritle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Spritle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spritle)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2001, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/39 "2001-07-24T19:06:33Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Labdad \*  
> \*\*I’d have to go with the '37 Talbot Lago \<snip\> They both have curves that are downright sinful! \*\*

While the Talbot had a VERY innovative design for 1937, (Heck only the Auburn company in the US dared try anything that drastic) I cringed when I read that it had Stromberg carbs. I was almost in tears when I read that it had three of them. The TR-7 has two Zenith-Stromberg carbs and they are difficult to adjust and real tough to synchronize. Further, being single piston carbs, they aren’t the most responsive units or the most powerful. I guess this is why most British Leyland auto owners exchange them for Webers.

**Pushkin** , I am hurt to the core! If the TR-7 wasn’t truly the “Shape of things to come”, how would one explain the Fiat X-19 Bertone? The Toyota MR2? The early Datsun Z series (280 in particular)? Indeed the TR-7 was the start of the World Wide Wedge!!!

It certainly has it’s share of problems, but no more than any other BL production car. The major problem with British cars is American drivers. We grew up with GM 350s and other big V8s that could handle being ignored. If your big ole V8 was a bit out of time or the 4 barrel carb was a bit off on the ratio there was no discernible effect in the operation of the car. This was not so with the British cars. They are much more exacting and show non-maintenance more than other cars. They run well, but can’t be ignored.

Anyway, this is not about the technical aspects of cars but the sheer visual appeal. Since the TR-7 “wedge” shape has been copied by many other car manufactures since 1975, I’ll have to stick to my original statements, your “BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA” notwithstanding.

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**Author:** ![Jet\_Jaguar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jet_jaguar/32/3562_2.png) [@Jet\_Jaguar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jet_Jaguar)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2001, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-then-whats-the-most-beautiful-car-all-time/73401/40 "2001-07-24T22:01:59Z")

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The **1962 Ferrari 250 GTO** , in Italian Red, is the single most beautiful car ever produced in the history of the universe.

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