# OK: who is best? - men or women ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 22, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773 "2006-05-22T16:47:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Minotaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Minotaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minotaurus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/1 "2006-05-22T16:47:23Z")

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when it comes to work, science, creativity, skills etc

Let’s have a real debate about it

I go for the men

how about you

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**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/2 "2006-05-22T16:53:41Z")

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What about when it comes to driving 😛

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/3 "2006-05-22T16:55:39Z")

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[Two holes good, three holes bad.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=253005&highlight=holes)

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/4 "2006-05-22T16:55:41Z")

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> [@Minotaurus](#):
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> I go for the men

I go for the men, too; but, sadly, they don’t go for me.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/5 "2006-05-22T17:00:32Z")

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> [@Minotaurus](#):
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> I go for the men
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> how about you

You’re in Great Debates. Back up your assertion, please, with cites and an argument, or very few people will debate with you.

Better yet, read some of the other debates around here - especially the original posts, to see how they begin and continue. And I second the recommendation in another thread to use your Lotto winning to buy some punctuation and capital letters. _Please_.

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**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/6 "2006-05-22T17:02:33Z")

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Wow, it’s exciting to know that this age-old question will finally be unambiguously settled once and for all, and I’ll be here to witness it. Truly historic. Let the debate begin!

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**Author:** ![Minotaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Minotaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minotaurus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/7 "2006-05-22T17:06:04Z")

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well, here are my arguments…

who have created sivilizations through history: men  
who have created our modern society we have today: men  
Who have delivered most of the inventions the last 200 years: men  
who have delivered most of the inventions the last 50 years: men  
who have created the political systems of the 19th and 20th century: men  
who have won most of the nobel prizes : men

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/8 "2006-05-22T17:12:20Z")

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Well folks, I don’t know about the rest of you but that’s all the evidence I need.

Colour me _convinced_.

**Minotaurus** , may I please subscribe to your newsletter?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/9 "2006-05-22T17:14:59Z")

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> [@Minotaurus](#):
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> well, here are my arguments…
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> who have created sivilizations through history: men  
> who have created our modern society we have today: men  
> Who have delivered most of the inventions the last 200 years: men  
> who have delivered most of the inventions the last 50 years: men  
> who have created the political systems of the 19th and 20th century: men  
> who have won most of the nobel prizes : men

Women might have done those things if not systematically denied the opportunity, in practically every culture more technologically advanced than the mesolithic, to do anything but “women’s work.”

In my experience women are the intellectual equals of men except in one or two minor areas. I’ve noticed women have a hard time giving or receiving directions – especially directions involving “north” and “south” rather than “left” or “right.” Maybe our male hunter ancestry fits us better for that kind of thing, I dunno. But it’s a trivial thing on which to base any all-encompassing male chauvinism.

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**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/10 "2006-05-22T17:15:10Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> You’re in Great Debates. Back up your assertion, please, with cites and an argument, or very few people will debate with you.

I predict this thread will go to six pages.

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**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/11 "2006-05-22T17:21:57Z")

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Girls rule, boys drool. Have you heard about our spelling? We’re excellent spellers.

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**Author:** ![Minotaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Minotaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minotaurus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/12 "2006-05-22T17:24:26Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Women might have done those things if not systematically denied the opportunity, in practically every culture more technologically advanced than the mesolithic, to do anything but “women’s work.”
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> In my experience women are the intellectual equals of men except in one or two minor areas. I’ve noticed women have a hard time giving or receiving directions – especially directions involving “north” and “south” rather than “left” or “right.” Maybe our male hunter ancestry fits us better for that kind of thing, I dunno. But it’s a trivial thing on which to base any all-encompassing male chauvinism.

one female anthropolog said some years ago that, if women have ruled the world since the dawn of mankind, we would still be living in straw huts

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**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/13 "2006-05-22T17:26:47Z")

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> [@Minotaurus](#):
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> one female anthropolog said some years ago that, if women have ruled the world since the dawn of mankind, we would still be living in straw huts

Cite!!

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**Author:** ![Minotaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Minotaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minotaurus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/14 "2006-05-22T17:28:54Z")

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> [@davenportavenger](#):
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> Cite!!

don’t remember because i read it a decade ago in a magazine or newspaper

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**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/15 "2006-05-22T17:33:27Z")

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> [@Minotaurus](#):
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> don’t remember because i read it a decade ago in a magazine or newspaper

Real or imaginary?

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/16 "2006-05-22T17:36:04Z")

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> [@Polerius](#):
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> I predict this thread will go to six pages.

I predict this thread will reach the point of total degeneracy (if only for the presence of **Minotaurus** ) and be locked far before then. I’m giving uh… (thinks back to the thread about bookies’ calculations) 6 to 1 odds. Any takers?

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/17 "2006-05-22T17:42:57Z")

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Maybe this thread should be moved to IMHO?

> [@Minotaurus](#):
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> well, here are my arguments…
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> who have created sivilizations through history: men  
> who have created our modern society we have today: men  
> Who have delivered most of the inventions the last 200 years: men  
> who have delivered most of the inventions the last 50 years: men  
> who have created the political systems of the 19th and 20th century: men  
> who have won most of the nobel prizes : men

You forgot some of the most important things!

who can write their name in the snow: men  
who has bigger balls: men  
who would win in an arm wrestling competition: men  
who is the most pointlessly arrogant about being superior: men

Could you possibly make a thread any more embarassing?

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/18 "2006-05-22T17:43:07Z")

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I’ll take 2 pages for $100. Given it’s beginnings, it had nowhere to go but up.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/19 "2006-05-22T17:46:28Z")

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> [@Blaster Master](#):
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> Could you possibly make a thread any more embarassing?

Is that a challenge? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2006, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-who-is-best-men-or-women/357773/20 "2006-05-22T17:58:41Z")

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> [@Blaster Master](#):
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> who is the most pointlessly arrogant about being superior: men

I’m going to have to disagree on that one.

I’m too lazy to provide a real cite, so here is a Googlecite:

Results 1 - 10 of about 22,500 for “women are stupid”.  
Results 1 - 10 of about 593 for “women are idiots”.  
Results 1 - 10 of about 54,800 for “men are stupid”.  
Results 1 - 10 of about 34,800 for “men are idiots”.

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