# Ok...why have Dem debates at all?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 14, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-why-have-dem-debates-at-all/840233 "2019-09-14T20:16:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-why-have-dem-debates-at-all/840233/21 "2019-09-21T14:43:19Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > So if it’s this or Trump, which would you rather have? If it’s either Trump or a stealth Republican me and mine are fucked regardless. It’s no choice at all. We’ll be in a _de facto_ one party nation and a dictatorship (even if the dictator is change from time to time). Cue the atrocities. Well, the increase in atrocities. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-why-have-dem-debates-at-all/840233/22 "2019-09-21T14:45:42Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > What’a a fallacy about it? The most \*electable \*president may not be very “diverse” and they may need to hold positions that are not very palatable to some democrats. (such as leaving gun rights alone) Ah, so you’re OK with people dying rather than putting in place some common sense measures to decrease the number of maimed and killed. Gotcha. Sorry, no - what you’re saying is that there’s no point to opposition any more, sit down and suck it up, the Republicans and bigots are in control and always will be. If you’re not a white Christian male you’re fucked, you’re a loser, and you need to just accept your “proper” place in society. Stop struggling and just accept it. Fuck that noise. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-why-have-dem-debates-at-all/840233/23 "2019-09-21T16:19:18Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Ah, so you’re OK with people dying rather than putting in place some common sense measures to decrease the number of maimed and killed. Gotcha. > > Sorry, no - what you’re saying is that there’s no point to opposition any more, sit down and suck it up, the Republicans and bigots are in control and always will be. If you’re not a white Christian male you’re fucked, you’re a loser, and you need to just accept your “proper” place in society. Stop struggling and just accept it. Good lord. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-why-have-dem-debates-at-all/840233/24 "2019-09-21T18:43:01Z")
Well, what the hell do you THINK women and minorities hear when told to “wait for your turn, we need an electable candidate”? Obviously, someone black is electable. It’s been done. Twice. But it’s the same old tired refrain - we need someone who looks/sounds/act more like the opposition to get elected, so those of you who can’t check off these boxes don’t even bother, just don’t forget to vote for the same-old same-old on election day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-why-have-dem-debates-at-all/840233.md?page=1)