# Okay, can't we just split the country in two fucking pieces?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786 "2004-11-03T17:04:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/1 "2004-11-03T17:04:46Z")

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Look,

Red states, blue states, politically we hate each other.  
Why the fuck do we have to be the same country still?

I live in a red state and I’m willing ot relocate. If we don’t seperate we’ll never be happy because we are being dominated by “red america”

Its just that simple

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/2 "2004-11-03T17:06:15Z")

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Someone on a morning talk show said something to the effect of:

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/3 "2004-11-03T17:08:15Z")

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> [@Lissa](#):
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> Someone on a morning talk show said something to the effect of:

Damn buttons, this is what sleep deprivation does…

Anyways he said something like:

Ok, we have the issue of slavery settled now, can we let the South secede and start their own confederacy?  
I thought it was pretty cute.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/4 "2004-11-03T17:08:32Z")

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Uh, **Lissa**?

Where did you go?

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**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/5 "2004-11-03T17:09:03Z")

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I mean really? We are so fucking different anyway and its not going to get any better. I got no desire to even have those fundementalists reeducated or changed. If they want to be backwards, let them, but we progressives shouldn’t be dragged down with them.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/6 "2004-11-03T17:09:20Z")

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Here is my verbatim Livejournal post from last night:

The real question those of us on the West Coast & in the Mid-Atlantic/Northeastern states should be asking is: do we really need the South and the Midwest? What the fuck do they do for this country anyway? Personally, I’d be just as happy if we gave all that shitty land back to the Indians.

Tongue in cheek? Not a whole lot.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/7 "2004-11-03T17:15:06Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> What the fuck do they do for this country anyway?

Well, there is our sense of perspective.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/8 "2004-11-03T17:17:27Z")

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**Woodstockbirdybird** , take a look at the county results for California. We can do without the nutjobs in the Bay Area and LA County. The rest of the state is solidly Republican.

Do we really need the Bay Area? What the fuck do they do for the country anyway? 😃

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**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/9 "2004-11-03T17:23:04Z")

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Well, fuck,

Who would really disagree anyway? The red states?

The states that have a democratic majority can have split off and if their people don’t like it they can move.

Damnit.

Kerry would have been a good president.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/10 "2004-11-03T17:25:12Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> Here is my verbatim Livejournal post from last night:
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> The real question those of us on the West Coast & in the Mid-Atlantic/Northeastern states should be asking is: do we really need the South and the Midwest? What the fuck do they do for this country anyway? Personally, I’d be just as happy if we gave all that shitty land back to the Indians.
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> Tongue in cheek? Not a whole lot.

Funny. I was commented last night that “see where the red is? That’s really the area that will never get attacked.”

[sub]Don’t tell me about OK either[/sub]

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/11 "2004-11-03T17:26:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Red states, blue states, politically we hate each other.

For fuck’s sake, red state vs blue state just shows which candidate a simple majority was likely to vote for. California isn’t anywhere near 100% Democrat, nor Georgia 100% Republican.

OTOH, you have a point, what with all the election-realted violence that took place. Oh, wait, that didn’t happen either.

Anyway, According to the way things shook out, you’d need to break the country up into at least four sections, since the states that went Kerry were in three widely-separated clumps.

Too much bother, really.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/12 "2004-11-03T17:28:51Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Well, there is our sense of perspective.

Jesus, when did everybody on these boards become such humorless PC weenies?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/13 "2004-11-03T17:29:14Z")

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Darn tootin’! I want a divorce! Northeast, Great Lakes, and West Coast let’s pull out of here!

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/14 "2004-11-03T17:31:19Z")

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If we made separate countries for everyone in the U.S. who thought differently, we’d have a couple hundred million different countries.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/15 "2004-11-03T17:34:00Z")

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By all means. Why should Israel have the only Gaza?

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**Author:** ![JimSox5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JimSox5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimSox5)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/16 "2004-11-03T17:36:35Z")

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It might not be such a bad idea. We could break the United States up into separate nations and end up with a map that looks like another Europe. I don’t think Europe has done too badly for itself.

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**Author:** ![JimSox5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JimSox5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimSox5)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/17 "2004-11-03T17:37:56Z")

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Oh, I’m not actually supporting that this be done, just saying that it wouldn’t be quite as horrible as what may be imagined.

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**Author:** ![Linear\_Crack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Linear\_Crack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linear_Crack)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/18 "2004-11-03T17:38:13Z")

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> [@Merkwurdigliebe](#):
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> Kerry would have been a good president.

How is that? By somehow not connecting with the American people even more?

Wrong choice, anytime.

-LC

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/19 "2004-11-03T17:38:23Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> For fuck’s sake, red state vs blue state just shows which candidate a simple majority was likely to vote for.

I say we make everything purple and be done with it.

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**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-cant-we-just-split-the-country-in-two-fucking-pieces/272786/20 "2004-11-03T17:38:30Z")

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Look, here’s the fact.

Only around 2 percent of Americans liked both Bush and Kerry.

We used to not be so divided. I can’t say who is to blame. I think its the Republicans, but I am a liberal, so I can’t have any claim to objectivity.

Yeah, I want a divorce. There is no need for us to be in the same country anymore anyway.

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