# Okay, honey, now that you're actually raping her, SAY CHEESE! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2003, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-honey-now-that-youre-actually-raping-her-say-cheese/175474 "2003-05-15T16:56:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-honey-now-that-youre-actually-raping-her-say-cheese/175474/21 "2003-05-16T03:35:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > If they believed the photos existed but didn’t yet have them, I doubt that they’d want to let that piece of info out; there’s too many ways it could go wrong. The couple (not yet in custody) could recover and destroy them; friends or relatives with a key could get into their house, find the pix, pass them around, or sell them on eBay; or they might not exist. That all seems pretty unlikely. As soon as the charges were announced, the couple has to know that those pictures (assuming they exsist) have to be destroyed, wether the cops know about them or not. And friends or family finding the pictures? Really, _really_ unlikely. (Especially selling them on Ebay, which I assume was hyperbole.) The friend/family member would have to be just as depraved as the couple _and]_ willing to put him/herself in incredible legal jeopardy for no personal reward at all. It just seems incredibly implausible. > [@](#): > > I could be wrong, certainly, but mentioning the photos without having them seems to be just begging for disaster on so many levels. I would hope and pray that, even in West Bumfuck, KY, the investigators are smart enough to realize that. I don’t really see that. I think the article mentioned the photos because that was the specific charge leveled against the wife: photographing her husband committing rape. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-honey-now-that-youre-actually-raping-her-say-cheese/175474/22 "2003-05-16T03:42:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dantheman \* > \*\*My guess is no - only a guess, though. I think if it was their daughter, they’d be more inclined to say so. Wouldn’t they? \*\* Well, it could be that they don’t want to risk specifically id’ing the victim by saying how she’s related to them. Beyond that, I don’t really want to comment until I hear more evidence. ---
**Author:** ![dwyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwyr/32/363_2.png) [@dwyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwyr)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-honey-now-that-youre-actually-raping-her-say-cheese/175474/23 "2003-05-16T07:13:07Z")
Yeah, **even** in Ky there’s probably **one** reasonably smart investigator. ---
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-honey-now-that-youre-actually-raping-her-say-cheese/175474/24 "2003-05-16T07:40:01Z")
If this is true, if there’s any justice in the world, their “health problems” relate to someone beating the living fuck out of them. Repeatedly. Over the course of 6 years. ---
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-honey-now-that-youre-actually-raping-her-say-cheese/175474/25 "2003-05-16T07:47:31Z")
If this is true, if there’s any justice in the world, their “health problems” relate to someone beating the living fuck out of them. Repeatedly. Over the course of 6 years. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-honey-now-that-youre-actually-raping-her-say-cheese/175474/26 "2003-05-16T07:54:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > \*\*I could be wrong, certainly, but mentioning the photos without having them seems to be just begging for disaster on so many levels. I would hope and pray that, even in West Bumfuck, KY, the investigators are smart enough to realize that. \*\* Agreed. You can’t allege she photographed the rapes and make it stick without being able to produce the at least _some_ photos. and claiming she did without having photos makes the accuser and the DA look bad. That, and the fact they have been charged with _hundreds_ of counts (which seems difficult to prove), leads me to believe that they have the pictures. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-honey-now-that-youre-actually-raping-her-say-cheese/175474/27 "2003-05-16T10:09:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > That all seems pretty unlikely. As soon as the charges were announced, the couple has to know that those pictures (assuming they exsist) have to be destroyed, wether the cops know about them or not. This assumes the couple had more brains than…well, whatever it was that gave them a charge out of doing this in the first place. My observation, just from reading the papers and a stint on a grand jury, is that most criminals aren’t bright enough to overcome their underlying motivations with any degree of alacrity. My honest bet is that if this couple was charged, but with no indication that the cops were looking for the photos, they’d keep them somewhere: the photos turn them on, they went to a lot of trouble to take them, and they’re going to hang onto them if they can, especially now that they’re unlikely to be able to take any more like them. That’s obviously an opinion based on what I know so far about human nature; yours may vary. > [@](#): > > And friends or family finding the pictures? Really, _really_ unlikely. (Especially selling them on Ebay, which I assume was hyperbole.) The friend/family member would have to be just as depraved as the couple _and]_ willing to put him/herself in incredible legal jeopardy for no personal reward at all. It just seems incredibly implausible. Selling them on eBay was hyperbole, but not by much. Let’s face it, there are a lot of depraved people in the world. And the Web has made it far more possible than ever for persons with similar obscure tastes, whether perfectly legit or completely illegal and twisted, to find one another. And now all the creeps, whether they know this couple or not, hypothetically know one likely place to look for a major cache of teen rape photos. And it goes without saying, unfortunately, that there’s a market for stuff like this. Besides, I really have to believe that “568 counts” means the investigators have six years’ worth of date-stamped photos. How else do you get a number both that large and that specific? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-honey-now-that-youre-actually-raping-her-say-cheese/175474.md?page=1)