# Okay, I'll pit josejones. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2005, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722 "2005-01-26T06:37:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![robotic\_panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed8c4c/32.png) [@robotic\_panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robotic_panda)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/41 "2005-01-27T13:03:10Z")
I am 22 years old, the youngest of three; my father is 50. If my father had sex with a woman younger than me, it would be creepy as hell. I’m sure **josejones** would be just fine with a 50+ man defiling his daughter. He has more experience and stuff, right? Or not, considering how unlikely this whole thing is… as another poster said, when I was in high school, you would have been made fun of crazy for dating a guy who was dad-age. My dad is crazy enough, I can’t imagine his reaction to me dating a man his age. And I never found a guy my dad’s age to be “sexy” in any sense while in high school. But thats just me… i’m not olive toned (very white), I never was a cheerleader(very nerdy), and I have red hair. (very nerdy.) ---
**Author:** ![robotic\_panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed8c4c/32.png) [@robotic\_panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robotic_panda)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/42 "2005-01-27T13:14:39Z")
Also, she eschewed everyone in her high school for you? Either shes a spectacularly uninteresting girl, or you’re a spectacularly manipulating guy… heres a :wally for you to share. You don’t exactly warrant a whole one, either of you. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/43 "2005-01-27T14:24:22Z")
> [@robotic\_panda](#): > > I’m sure **josejones** would be just fine with a 50+ man defiling his daughter. Defiling? What the fuck? Sex is evil and dirty - anyone who has sex is defiled forever? Again, what the fuck? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/44 "2005-01-27T14:26:54Z")
Maybe she meant deflowering? ---
**Author:** ![Elret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Elret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elret)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/45 "2005-01-27T14:56:12Z")
One of the definitions of defile on [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) is “to violate the chastity of”, which seems like an appropriate and not uncommon use of the word to me. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/46 "2005-01-27T14:59:42Z")
> [@Elret](#): > > One of the definitions of defile on [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) is “to violate the chastity of”, which seems like an appropriate and not uncommon use of the word to me. Well, again, violation? If the story is true, she was a willing partner. How is that violation either? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/47 "2005-01-27T15:01:47Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Well, again, violation? If the story is true, she was a willing partner. How is that violation either? The poster in question also used the phrase “creepy as hell” to describe this incident; why are you surprised over the use of “defiling” as well? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/48 "2005-01-27T15:06:47Z")
> [@Ferret Herder](#): > > The poster in question also used the phrase “creepy as hell” to describe this incident; why are you surprised over the use of “defiling” as well? Maybe I shouldn’t be. Plenty of people do find a large age gap to be creepy. I don’t, but I don’t get bent out of shape that others do. It’s the use of such a loaded word to refer to an act of consensual sex that bothers me - as if sex in and of itself is bad. ---
**Author:** ![Elret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Elret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elret)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/49 "2005-01-27T15:39:12Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Well, again, violation? If the story is true, she was a willing partner. How is that violation either? I think it’s really just semantics… but to me it does not imply a violation of _her_, but the definition specifically said a violation of _chastity_, which really is exactly what occurs when one loses one’s virginity. Sure, it might not be the most complimentary way of putting it, but I really believe that the poster meant it as a synonym for “deflowering”, which, technically, I think it is. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/50 "2005-01-27T19:24:18Z")
> [@robotic\_panda](#): > > I am 22 years old… i’m not olive toned (very white), I never was a cheerleader(very nerdy), and I have red hair. (very nerdy.) Y’know, if I wasn’t engaged…naw, let’s just not go that route. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/51 "2005-01-27T19:56:32Z")
I’m on the fence, being a 36-year-old who had a teenager express interest in giving a blow. ---
**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/52 "2005-01-27T22:03:21Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Defiling? What the fuck? Sex is evil and dirty - anyone who has sex is defiled forever? Again, what the fuck? I don’t think **Panda** meant that sex is evil and dirty. I read her use of “defiling” as describing how Jones might see it if his 45 year old buddy helped his (Jose’s) teenager daughter lose her virginity and were bragging about it on a message board. Even if it were consensual, I’m doubting Jones would say to his buddy, “You go, Fred, you de man!” Where is Jones, btw? We’re losing steam here without him. ---
**Author:** ![robotic\_panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed8c4c/32.png) [@robotic\_panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robotic_panda)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/53 "2005-01-27T23:29:10Z")
> [@JillGat](#): > > I don’t think **Panda** meant that sex is evil and dirty. I read her use of “defiling” as describing how Jones might see it if his 45 year old buddy helped his (Jose’s) teenager daughter lose her virginity and were bragging about it on a message board. Even if it were consensual, I’m doubting Jones would say to his buddy, “You go, Fred, you de man!” Exactly. Of course sex is beautiful and magical and great, but treating it like a Penthouse Forum story kinda takes some of the beauty from that, IMHO; no matter what the age difference or any other difference between the partners. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/54 "2005-01-27T23:31:02Z")
> [@robotic\_panda](#): > > Exactly. Of course sex is beautiful and magical and great, but treating it like a Penthouse Forum story kinda takes some of the beauty from that, Unless you’re not going for beautiful or magical and instead want hot sweaty monkey sex. To each their own. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/55 "2005-01-27T23:46:58Z")
> [@robotic\_panda](#): > > Exactly. Of course sex is beautiful and magical and great, but treating it like a Penthouse Forum story kinda takes some of the beauty from that, IMHO; no matter what the age difference or any other difference between the partners. But still, defiled? That implies damage; I don’t see that here. I suppose I’ve just been in too many threads lately arguing about words. I’ll relax now. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2005, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/56 "2005-01-28T00:01:19Z")
> [@robotic\_panda](#): > > I am 22 years old, > But thats just me… i’m not olive toned (very white), I never was a cheerleader(very nerdy), and I have red hair. (very nerdy.) So basically you’re Willow? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/57 "2005-01-28T00:04:27Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > So basically you’re Willow? :eek: I call dibs! ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/58 "2005-01-28T00:09:02Z")
You guys should be careful, she’ll start messing with the black arts and get all weird. Also she’ll realize she’s a lesbian, so basically you’re just doomed to unhappiness. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/59 "2005-01-28T00:11:01Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > You guys should be careful, she’ll start messing with the black arts and get all weird. In certain Thelemic circles that’s considered a definite plus 😃 > [@sturmhauke](#): > > Also she’ll realize she’s a lesbian, so basically you’re just doomed to unhappiness. Ah… lesbians… that means no port for the insertion of anything male ☹ But, there is always video tape… I still call dibs! ---
**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722/60 "2005-01-28T03:31:48Z")
> [@missbunny](#): > > Plus, he knows her somehow “from school” - how, exactly, when he says he’s not a teacher? Does he hang around at the high school for some unknown reason? Or is she one of his daughter’s former classmates? How do a 17-year-old high-school cheerleader and a married 45-year-old man happen to hang around in the same circles and become “friends” anyway? He said [this a while back](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5707920&postcount=49) > [@](#): > > my revenge came 21 years later. i’m in a golf outing for the school’s athletic dept. i’m stuck in a golf cart with mackey. by now i’m a respected, upright alum who spends time at the school and throws money at athletics and band. plus, i’m his boss because i’m a board member. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ill-pit-josejones/286722.md?page=4)