# Okay, I've seen the extreme right wing websites... Where do I find the other side? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 25, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467 "2003-08-25T05:35:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/1 "2003-08-25T05:35:26Z")
Apologies if this is in the wrong place. I had NO idea where to put this. It occurred to me a while back, when I, out of morbid curiosity, was reading the Free Republic forums and 'blogs with reader comments like “As long as he [Bush] keeps killing ragheads, he gets my vote. My only problem is that he isn’t killing more faster” (actual comment). The extreme right wing locales are pretty well known in general - I mean, many are pretty proud of that fact. But where would I find the extreme left wing sites, I mean the ones that are as looney as the ones above? And please don’t say “they’re all like that”; this is a semi-serious question, because in my mind, it’s harder to think of examples of the extremely odious left wing views, and I’d like to know what sort of bad stuff from my own side I’m dealing with. Danke in advance. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/2 "2003-08-25T07:07:48Z")
Well, there’s [PETA](http://www.peta.org/), [ELF](http://www.earthliberationfront.com/main.shtml), [Democratic Underground](http://www.democraticunderground.com/), and some other ones that I can’t remember at this hour. ---
**Author:** ![nitroglycerine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@nitroglycerine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nitroglycerine)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/3 "2003-08-25T07:44:45Z")
How 'bout [CPUSA](http://www.cpusa.org/), [IWW](http://www.iww.org/), [S.H.A.R.P.](http://users.volja.net/sharpslo/) or [Anarchy.org](http://www.anarchy.org/) Jon ---
**Author:** ![nitroglycerine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@nitroglycerine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nitroglycerine)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/4 "2003-08-25T07:53:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by nitroglycerine \* > \*\*How 'bout [CPUSA](http://www.cpusa.org/), [IWW](http://www.iww.org/), [S.H.A.R.P.](http://users.volja.net/sharpslo/) or [Anarchy.org](http://www.anarchy.org/) > > Jon \*\* The CPUSA site however, is the only one of the above links that I would consider to be “loony” though not nearly as loony as most of the extreme right. Jon ---
**Author:** ![nitroglycerine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@nitroglycerine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nitroglycerine)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/5 "2003-08-25T07:58:12Z")
One more…[This page](http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/) has a whole bunch of Anarchy related links as well. Jon ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/6 "2003-08-25T16:10:01Z")
Friend of mine was on the shit list for [this page](http://www.thebird.org/) for awhile, but seems to have been replaced with George W. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/7 "2003-08-25T17:09:58Z")
Check out [www.bartcop.com](http://www.bartcop.com). It is definitely from the left, although I personally do not think it is loony. ---
**Author:** ![dadaK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ba9def/32.png) [@dadaK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dadaK)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/8 "2003-08-25T20:24:29Z")
[Prospect.org](http://Prospect.org), [commondreams.org](http://commondreams.org), [buzzflash.com](http://buzzflash.com), and (for humor’s sake) [whitehouse.org](http://whitehouse.org) and The Onion. The New York Observer is another one, but I don’t know the address. I’ve found some pretty alarming stories there, one in particular about the Skull & Bones (archived: “I stole the head of Prescott Bush!!” - check it out! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/9 "2003-08-25T20:55:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by nitroglycerine \* > \*\*The CPUSA site however, is the only one of the above links that I would consider to be “loony” though not nearly as loony as most of the extreme right. > \*\* Hmm. Might be a good GD topic… Why it’s so difficult to find examples for the really loony left. But I’ll have to think about how to phrase it. But thanks for the answers so far… Any more? ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/10 "2003-08-25T21:21:46Z")
Try taking a freshman composition or speech class at any public college or university. The professors who teach these classes can’t seem to restrain themselves from injecting political comments into any and all discussions, no matter how off-topic or inappropriate. Also, the [Green Party USA](http://www.greenparty.org/) is pretty out there. Read their platform [here](http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html). They are the “other” Green Party - much more radical than the party Nader was associated with. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/11 "2003-08-25T21:31:16Z")
The Democratic Underground is the exact opposite of the example you mentioned, the Free Republic. Another example is **[moveon.org](http://moveon.org)** which was founded to protect Bill from impeachment and has grown to be an all around liberal site. **Mediawhores** online is devoted to bashing the “conservative media” that dominates America. (_snicker_) There are many more and they commonly link to eachother. (Sorry for not posting links, but they are an easy find with a search. I forget if the material is appropriate for work and am in a cautious mood. 🙂 ) IMHO, there are more liberal wacko sites out there than conservative ones. I think this is due to the fact that a conservative is in power. If a democrat is elected in the next election they will lose much of thier steam. At the same time all the ultra-conservatives who are pissed off about it will need a place to go and vent. The next thing you know conservative web pages will pop up in greater numbers and some of the liberal ones will disappear. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/12 "2003-08-25T23:22:51Z")
The various Indymedia sites. ---
**Author:** ![sleepytimebaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@sleepytimebaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleepytimebaby)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/13 "2003-08-26T01:05:22Z")
My favorite Lefty (pet name for a friend of mine) has almost all those websites listed on his homepage! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/14 "2003-08-26T03:18:41Z")
I posted for a time on Democratic Underground, but only for a little while. I wanted an anecdote to the Freepers, then I got disgusted and left. ---
**Author:** ![corndog\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@corndog\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corndog_man)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/15 "2003-08-26T03:32:27Z")
I go to [www.politics1.com](http://www.politics1.com). You will find just about every political website available from anarchists to Nazis, to Stalinists (American Stalinists!). You can also read feminist, gay, fundy, 3rd parties and whacko pages (American Nazi’s and Stalinists are just insane) ---
**Author:** ![Daowajan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Daowajan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daowajan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/16 "2003-08-26T03:59:34Z")
I haven’t been there in ages, but I remember [http://www.yellowtimes.org](http://www.yellowtimes.org) as being pretty wacked. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/17 "2003-08-26T05:13:01Z")
A couple of favorites on the far, far loony left-of Berkeley list include [movie reviews](http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/movies/) from the Maoist International Movement (every one mentioning the words “United $tates” or “AmeriKKKa”), and the [Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival](http://www.michfest.com/home.htm). With the exception of the commies and socialists, it’s really difficult to find sites that are as far left of center as the plethora of far right-wing and religious right sites out there. Bartcop is only just a bit more liberal than the Drudge Report is conservative. There is about an even balance of liberal and conservative Web sites closer to the center of the political specttrum (i.e. right of Bartcop, left of Rush Limbaugh). IMHO, of course. Mind you, I consider myself to be a pragmatic liberal. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/18 "2003-08-26T07:00:51Z")
[Rense.com](http://www.rense.com) is kind of out there in far left field. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/19 "2003-08-26T07:12:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > I posted for a time on Democratic Underground, but only for a little while. I wanted an anecdote to the Freepers, then I got disgusted and left. I lurked on the DU forums for a while, but soon realized I needed to take everything with a grain of salt. Makes for some interesting starting points, though. And I’m completely addicted to the [Top Ten Conservative Idiots of the Week,](http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/03/123.html) salty though it may be. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-ive-seen-the-extreme-right-wing-websites-where-do-i-find-the-other-side/197467/20 "2003-08-27T03:46:19Z")
For sheer craziness, you can’t beat the [Worker’s World](http://www.workers.org/).