# Okay, so congress is regretting overriding the President's veto.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311 "2016-09-30T20:54:30Z")
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### Author: ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/1 "2016-09-30T20:54:30Z")

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Can’t the just pass another bill making everything right as rain again?

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/2 "2016-09-30T21:33:40Z")

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Political suicide.

“Sen. Bargle votes to deny money to families of 9/11 victims!”

That’s how the bill passed in the first place.

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### Author: ![igor\_frankensteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/839c29/32.png) [@igor\_frankensteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/igor_frankensteen)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2016, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/3 "2016-10-01T13:02:48Z")

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The thing is, “Congress” doesn’t regret their collective action. Some members of it do, and they opposed it to begin with.

Yes if Congress as a whole wanted to, they could reverse their previous vote immediately.

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### Author: ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/4 "2016-10-01T14:04:48Z")

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This is a classic case of knowing what’s best for the country versus what’s best for the individual politico. Self-interest wins every time.

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### Author: ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/5 "2016-10-01T14:36:15Z")

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\<nitpick\> Only the Senate has voted to override the veto, the House is yet to take up the matter … so the bill is still not law. \</nitpick.

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/6 "2016-10-01T14:42:11Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> \<nitpick\> Only the Senate has voted to override the veto, the House is yet to take up the matter … so the bill is still not law. \</nitpick.

Nope. [Already overturned.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/senate-jasta-228841)

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> Congress overwhelmingly rejected President Barack Obama’s bid to derail legislation allowing families of the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to sue the government of Saudi Arabia, handing him the first veto override of his presidency during his final year in office.
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> \*\*The Senate took the first step Wednesday, voting 97-1 to override Obama’s veto of the 9/11 bill. The House quickly followed with a 348-77 vote. \*\*

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### Author: ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/7 "2016-10-01T14:58:35Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Can’t the just pass another bill making everything right as rain again?

I don’t know about “as right as rain” but here’s what I reckon they’ll end up doing.  
(crosspost from another thread)

> [@Should Congress override Obama's veto on Saudi waiver?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-congress-override-obamas-veto-on-saudi-waiver/766714/149):
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> The particulars may vary, but it almost seems obvious to me how they are going to walk this back. It doesn’t take a genius to guess that they’ll handle it how they handle everything these days - through creative accounting.
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> They’ll amend the law so that 9/11 families that win a judgement against S.A. will be paid out of some US-government controlled slush-fund or other, and then it will be the purview of Congress and the State Dept. to decide if/when/how they decide to enforce the judgment by collecting from S.A.
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> It will basically boil down to our diplomats using a somewhat make-believe/self-proclaimed ledger of “debts” as a stick to carry in their back pockets for when the carrots aren’t working.

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### Author: ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/8 "2016-10-01T18:17:55Z")

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Interesting fact: They are blaming Obama for not writing a sufficiently strong veto message, pointing out all the downsides. All his fault.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Interesting fact: They are blaming Obama for not writing a sufficiently strong veto message, pointing out all the downsides. All his fault.

So what are they suggesting? That Obama should have not merely vetoed the bill but should have also urinated on it before sending it back?

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#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/10 "2016-10-02T00:28:23Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Interesting fact: They are blaming Obama for not writing a sufficiently strong veto message, pointing out all the downsides. All his fault.

When is the yearly physical set by their benefits package? Perhaps something is medically wrong with them…?

Granted, I am not a Dr… but The Senate usually seems more… on the ball…

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### Author: ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/11 "2016-10-02T01:10:50Z")

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I’m genuinely curious:

Why did so many Democrats vote to override? Surely Obama could have made them understand his reasoning? Did he not discuss this with even his own party?

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> [@Xema](#):
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> I’m genuinely curious:
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> Why did so many Democrats vote to override? Surely Obama could have made them understand his reasoning? Did he not discuss this with even his own party?

They don’t want to be seen voting against 9/11 families. Especially in favor of dirty foreigners. Especially Muslim dirty foreigners.

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### Author: ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)
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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> They don’t want to be seen voting against 9/11 families. Especially in favor of dirty foreigners. Especially Muslim dirty foreigners.

Especially this close to the elections.

If Congress does anything about this bill, it won’t happen until after the election.

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### Author: ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/14 "2016-10-02T01:41:24Z")

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Once _everybody_ starts playing to the cheap seats the country won’t last much longer. Time for my rarely-seen sig.

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### Author: ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/15 "2016-10-02T13:40:20Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Nope. [Already overturned.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/senate-jasta-228841)

Thanx for the correction. My Google-fu failed me I guess.

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### Author: ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/okay-so-congress-is-regretting-overriding-the-presidents-veto/767311/16 "2016-10-02T16:26:08Z")

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Since the factual aspects of this have been answered, and there is another thread in Great Debates, I am closing this. Further discussion should be taken to that thread.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805447](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805447)

Colibri  
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