Beavers are perfectly harmless creatures. Why shoot them? it’s nasty, imho.
I’ll make another thread for this one.
All too often though, BrandonR, heated arguments, even among ordinary, law-abiding citizens turn rather deadly when firearms are present. A murder or permanent crippling of a person is more likely to occur when there are firearms present. To paraphrase the quote: An angry person with no gun is just angry. An angry person with a gun shoots his/her neighbor. " I believe that this phrase holds true.
If you were angry and had a gun would you start shooting?
Well… how angry?
The overwhelming majority of gunowners in the US who will never shoot anyone would say no.
I work in a hospital, so it would be both against the law and against company policy.
Short answer, no. It stays secured in the car.
I imagine that the overwhelming majority of gun owners in the US who will shoot someone would also say no.
Yes.
I can only conclude that those who believe other people would start shooting think that way because (whether they will admit it or not) it is what they fear they, themselves, would do.
Yep. Small business owner, sole proprietorship, so I make the rules, and I allow myself to carry. I take $$ to the bank, often after dark.
It’s like they’re latent or something!
Your rights end at my front door. I don’t want you to have the chance to “fail” as a gun owner in my home. It is my business to know if you’re bringing a firearm to my property. I make conditions for entrance into my home. Don’t like it?
Stay away.
And why not? Shouldn’t we always judge others on the standards we trust of ourselves?
I know that I am not perfect, and its not inconceivable that I could find myself in a situation where shooting someone was apparently justified.
Now I don’t believe I would actually do it, but I can admit to myself that its not inconceivable. And if you read at all you will see that there are thousands of crimes of passion committed.
Counterpoint–I judge that Michael Phelps is a significantly better swimmer than I am. In the generic case where you know nothing of a person, certainly you can judge them as harshly as necessary, but by no means is it implied that “I would probably do thing A, therefore everyone would.”
Of course, Scumpup’s also responding to
which I’d hope you could agree is so over the top that it deserves the sort of abrupt dismissal that it was given.
independentminded, by the way: I own several firearms. I am currently very angry at my landlord because he sends me condescending nastygrams about yard maintenance while not repairing the serious water damage in the house’s bathroom–and the thing I irrationally hate most in this world is being condescended to. Explain to me, in the context of your quote, why my landlord is still alive and not severely shotgunned.
Well, do you own a shotgun?
[puts on kevlar]
Awwwww, poor you… there, there, eveything’s gonna okay, I promise…
<R. Lee Ermey> I like you. You can come to my house and fuck my sister. sucker-punch </Ermey>
Indeed I do. Granted, the only ammo I keep around is #8 light target, so “severely shotgunned” is more like “moderately annoyed” to a human-sized target at any appreciable range, but my question stands. =P
Sorry for the late reply on this (I was on vacation).
I mentioned the sign thing. I also mentioned I thought it was weird.
In any case, while it might solve some problems with this why should anyone have to blight their yard with a big sign that is visible from the street just to make sure you do not come armed to their house? Especially since I live in Chicago so, currently, I would not expect anyone except law enforcement to even have a gun when they visit.
Aside from that this is simply not possible in many cases. I personally live in a condo (and lots of other people do as well). There is a homeowners association which restricts what people can do in common areas or areas visible to all (e.g. your front yard). There is little chance the majority would agree to a sign in the front (if you’ve never dealt with a homeowners association you will just have to trust me on this…won’t happen in most cases). Ours restricts what you can put on your front door as well (again considered a common area visible to all). Add in all the people who live in apartments. I also would not be surprised if various towns have restrictions on what signs are ok to plop in your front yard.
So, even if I were amenable to putting up a sign that you think is such a good idea I literally cannot (at least doing it and expect to remain where I am living for long).
If one of my guest brought a gun along, I’d say, “I hope you brought enough ammo for everyone”.