# Oklahoma Couple Kills Puppy, Tans Hide **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 19, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346 "2009-06-19T23:05:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/41 "2009-06-20T01:35:17Z")
I won’t read the OP or the article because I cannot _ **stand** _ animal abuse! I favor the death penalty for this couple. And I’m not kidding. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/42 "2009-06-20T01:35:26Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Human beings are a separate class of creature. We shouldn’t kill humans because we are humans. So humans are ‘special’ for what reason? The same reason a domesticated animal be different from a fly? Other animals kill their own kind. And we do kill eachother, just not for belts, or stupid reasons… unless you’re crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/43 "2009-06-20T01:47:00Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Why? Because he said animal cruelty is the roughest thing in town? That means they don’t have gang problems and other such things, that the worst thing people do is be mean to animals. > > He’s not being a dick at all. At the very least, I find his “we don’t smoke marijuana” line to be charmingly naive and the whole “we like livin’ right” thing smacks of conformity gone mad. Was the next verse about a corn lottery? ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/44 "2009-06-20T01:51:21Z")
I said “stupid reasons”, and realized that’s subjective. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/45 "2009-06-20T01:52:31Z")
What galls me is that an animal was killed simply because of a tiff with an ex lover. Sick, sick, sick. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/46 "2009-06-20T01:55:38Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > This tells me more about you than his comment tells you about him. > > What my comment tell him about me, though, I couldn’t even guess. You should not drink before posting. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/47 "2009-06-20T01:57:12Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > You should not drink before posting. I actually found that a little amusing ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/48 "2009-06-20T01:59:09Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > So humans are ‘special’ for what reason? The same reason a domesticated animal be different from a fly? Other animals kill their own kind. And we do kill eachother, just not for belts, or stupid reasons… unless you’re crazy. Because I am a human and I benefit by cooperation with other humans. If it were ok to murder human beings for their skins we couldn’t build a civilization. The same is not true for killing puppies. We could murder puppies all day long and still maintain a cohesive civilization. As it is we murder millions of cows, chickens, sheep, ducks, and any other number of food animals every day. The reason we don’t kill puppies is because they cuddle with us at night. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/49 "2009-06-20T02:00:19Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > You should not drink before posting. There is no reason to not drink before posting. None at all. It makes posting more fun. But he’s right, my comment tells you nothing about me except that I do not exalt puppies above other animals. Yours tells us that you DO exalt puppies above other animals. So what it tells us about you is more meaningful than what it tells you about me. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/50 "2009-06-20T02:01:15Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Because I am a human and I benefit by cooperation with other humans. If it were ok to murder human beings for their skins we couldn’t build a civilization. The same is not true for killing puppies. We could murder puppies all day long and still maintain a cohesive civilization. As it is we murder millions of cows, chickens, sheep, ducks, and any other number of food animals every day. The reason we don’t kill puppies is because they cuddle with us at night. Well maybe back in the day, but we have PLENTY of humans to spare today. What about murderers and rapists? I would still think you to be loony if you were to wear human. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/51 "2009-06-20T02:18:45Z")
…elderly, sick, mentally ill, people who make no effort to help you build your civilization. Are they fair game? I’m more of a cat person BTW. But I get dogs and dog people. Not a hater. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/52 "2009-06-20T02:45:38Z")
Tan me hide when I’m dead, Fred, tan me hide when I’m dead. So we tanned his hide when he died Clyde, And that’s it hanging on the shed. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/53 "2009-06-20T02:51:05Z")
> [@ghardester](#): > > Tan me hide when I’m dead, Fred, > tan me hide when I’m dead. > So we tanned his hide when he died Clyde, > And that’s it hanging on the shed. I thought of that song too. I’ve also been thinking of Ed Gein. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/54 "2009-06-20T04:00:52Z")
What a senseless act. Jack Russell terrier isn’t in style this year. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/55 "2009-06-20T04:13:53Z")
What’s the actual laws regulating the humane taking of animal life? So long as you use the proper method, are you alright, or do you need to have a license? Does it depend on the animal? ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/56 "2009-06-20T04:37:39Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > There is no reason to not drink before posting. None at all. It makes posting more fun. > > But he’s right, my comment tells you nothing about me except that I do not exalt puppies above other animals. Yours tells us that you DO exalt puppies above other animals. So what it tells us about you is more meaningful than what it tells you about me. Now he knows what you think… It’s come full circle. 🙂 Sorry Gonz!! ---
**Author:** ![StaudtCJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@StaudtCJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StaudtCJ)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/57 "2009-06-20T04:41:54Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Would you like me to post some links that show how dog for food is prepared? Although it’s illegal in South Korea, there are plenty of “boshintang” restauarants serving up “stamina stew,” and taste doesn’t have a thing to do with why Korean men eat the stuff. The more the dog suffers, the happier the consumer is. My point was not that some people like eating dog, or even that some people in some country somewhere like eating tortured dog. My point was that it wasn’t done respectfully. The dog was killed in a horrible fashion for no particular purpose other than hating someone else. I believe in hunting, and I am a practicing omnivore. Killing, eating, and tanning the hide of my neighbor’s pet cow, Bessie, is very different than killing a farm cow for food, supplies, and clothing materials. What was done to the puppy was reprehensible because of the youth of the animal, the use the carcass was put to, the previous treatment of the puppy, and the intent of the idiot. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/58 "2009-06-20T05:22:39Z")
> [@StaudtCJ](#): > > My point was not that some people like eating dog, or even that some people in some country somewhere like eating tortured dog. My point was that it wasn’t done respectfully. The dog was killed in a horrible fashion for no particular purpose other than hating someone else. I believe in hunting, and I am a practicing omnivore. Killing, eating, and tanning the hide of my neighbor’s pet cow, Bessie, is very different than killing a farm cow for food, supplies, and clothing materials. What was done to the puppy was reprehensible because of the youth of the animal, the use the carcass was put to, the previous treatment of the puppy, and the intent of the idiot. How do you feel about veal and kid gloves? ---
**Author:** ![StaudtCJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@StaudtCJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StaudtCJ)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/59 "2009-06-20T05:32:45Z")
As long as the animal in question has either been raised for food or hunted on the hoof, that’s fine with me. Nobody lied to that animal in word or deed saying “I love you”. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-couple-kills-puppy-tans-hide/500346/60 "2009-06-20T05:59:20Z")
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