# Oklahoma? More like Oklahomo, bitches!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 14, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827 "2014-01-14T23:20:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/21 "2014-01-15T13:55:31Z")

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This is the first time that a state constitutional amendment has been struck down, right? Or was California constitution amended? This is the first I remember hearing the EPC being used for gay marriage by a judge.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/22 "2014-01-15T14:12:50Z")

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> [@lost4life](#):
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> So he should stiff the horse?

That’s South Carolina.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/23 "2014-01-15T14:18:29Z")

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> [@lost4life](#):
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> So he should stiff the horse?

See? As soon as we allow gay marriage, the talk immediately turns to bestiality. Scalia was right!

Anyway, the law is about tripping horses. I think that if a horse wants to eat those kinds of mushrooms, it’s up to the horse.

Back to the thread: Congrats to OK!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/24 "2014-01-15T14:27:07Z")

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> [@flatlined](#):
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> I think there was a window of opportunity because my assistant got married in Oklahoma about 10 days ago. I didn’t think to ask him if it was a legal wedding. I’m certainly going to treat them as though they are legally married and will demand that HR does the same.

No, the stay was issued contemporaneously. So any window of opportunity would have been a matter of seconds .

> [@stpauler](#):
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> This is the first time that a state constitutional amendment has been struck down, right? Or was California constitution amended? This is the first I remember hearing the EPC being used for gay marriage by a judge.

The California constitution was amended. That was what the whole Prop 8 thing was about.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/25 "2014-01-15T14:32:17Z")

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[These guys look happy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOeZnfUuIY)

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/26 "2014-01-15T14:53:29Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> See? As soon as we allow gay marriage, the talk immediately turns to bestiality…

Wait, is _Stiff the Horse_ a euphemism? Man, I gots to keep up with my slang…and apologize for accidentally stiffing that waitress the other night.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/27 "2014-01-15T16:48:45Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> No, the stay was issued contemporaneously. So any window of opportunity would have been a matter of seconds …

Doyou?Yes!Doyou?Ido!Inowpronounceyoulegallymarriedbythepowervestedinme— _ **DING!** _ “Oops, sorry, we’re outta time here, folks.”

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/28 "2014-01-15T16:52:37Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> This is the first time that a state constitutional amendment has been struck down, right? Or was California constitution amended?

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The California constitution was amended. That was what the whole Prop 8 thing was about.

Not just California either; the judge in the Utah case voided the constitutional amendment banning SSM there as well.

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**Author:** ![compositejoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/compositejoe/32/7232_2.png) [@compositejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/compositejoe)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/29 "2014-01-15T17:04:11Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> Can they get rid of all their other [dumb laws](http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/oklahoma) now too?
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> Actually, the one against spitting on the sidewalk can stay

What about if you suddenly get a nasty taste in your mouth and have nowhere else to spit but the sidewalk? ☹

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/30 "2014-01-15T17:17:36Z")

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By definition, there’s a perfectly good road next to you to spit on.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/31 "2014-01-15T17:21:27Z")

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> [@compositejoe](#):
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> What about if you suddenly get a nasty taste in your mouth and have nowhere else to spit but the sidewalk? ☹

Well, you just walk 3 feet to either side and spit in the grass or even the street. How large are the sidewalks where you live? Is your entire town one large sidewalk?

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/32 "2014-01-15T17:23:35Z")

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[This article](http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/01/15/oklahoma_gay_marriage_ban_federal_judge_strikes_it_down.html) on [Slate.com](http://Slate.com) sums up why this particular ruling is a big deal.

Basically, for the past 15 years, the SCOTUS has reasoned indirectly that gay marriage should be legal, but have kept the ruling very narrow and obscured the big picture reasoning of just what rights gays deserve. What the Oklahoma judge did was basically take the Kennedy’s tone and apply that to his reasoning. He’s going to force the SCOTUS to determine just what rights gays have and not dodge the question anymore. Either its wrong to discriminate against gays and all state anti-gay laws are invalid, or, as the article puts it, Kennedy has to rule on something he doesn’t agree with

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/33 "2014-01-15T17:25:18Z")

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Not really too much of an issue in most of the greater OKC area. About the only neighborhoods with sidewalks are gated communities or really old ones. Some exceptions do exist, but generally, yards go all the way to the street, sometimes without even a curb. Yes, in city limits.

eta: re: posts 29-31

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/34 "2014-01-15T18:41:27Z")

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Alas, with the stay, I will have to wait to enjoy the sound of reactionary Oklahoman heads exploding. I imagine that when the first official, recognized gay marriage is performed there, it will sound like the celebratory popping of a string of firecrackers, made delicate by distance.

> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Not really too much of an issue in most of the greater OKC area. About the only neighborhoods with sidewalks are gated communities or really old ones. Some exceptions do exist, but generally, yards go all the way to the street, sometimes without even a curb. Yes, in city limits.

I call that oil-boom design. I think neighborhoods like that were often laid out on the assumption that their denizens would all have cars and drive absolutely everywhere.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/35 "2014-01-15T18:41:28Z")

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> [@compositejoe](#):
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> What about if you suddenly get a nasty taste in your mouth and have nowhere else to spit but the sidewalk? ☹

That’s what cops’ faces are there for, silly! 🙂

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/36 "2014-01-15T18:57:52Z")

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> [@Flywheel](#):
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> At long last, the farmer and the cowman can be more than just friends…

I laughed out loud.

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**Author:** ![FightMyIgnorance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@FightMyIgnorance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FightMyIgnorance)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/37 "2014-01-15T19:16:42Z")

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> [@lost4life](#):
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> So he should stiff the horse?

This is a euphemism, right? 😕

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/38 "2014-01-15T21:23:50Z")

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> [@FightMyIgnorance](#):
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> This is a euphemism, right? 😕

Well since you’re new, I’ll skip the razor sharp sarcastic response and just say read post #26.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/39 "2014-01-15T21:43:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Aren’t there ever any times when the dog, um, just can’t make it quite that far and you have to let him out? Please?

Nathan is a small dog, a dachshund, so could only take a small bite. We couldn’t get inside the 9 foot privacy fence that links all the Phelps houses and the church either, so his…output… would have no effect either.

You should see that whole block, of barracks style houses, with some open ground and the church building, remodeled from a house as well. There’s one house on the section that does not belong to them, and it’s hilarious to see how the privacy fence has to jink around it. It must be weird to have the WBC so close like that. I think I’d paint my house pink or something.

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**Author:** ![FightMyIgnorance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@FightMyIgnorance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FightMyIgnorance)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/40 "2014-01-15T23:12:52Z")

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> [@lost4life](#):
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> Well since you’re new, I’ll skip the razor sharp sarcastic response and just say read post #26.

Maybe I should RTFT for once. :smack:

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