# Oklahoma? More like Oklahomo, bitches!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 14, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827 "2014-01-14T23:20:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/61 "2014-01-17T13:50:32Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> So, how long have you been a vegan?

Sorry, not getting the joke here. Did you mean “Brandon”, or me? I’m proudly omnivorous\*.

- (I gots ta tells ya, I go out with vegans, and it’s way too much work-- I appreciate their principles, I’m just relieved that I don’t have any).

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/62 "2014-01-17T15:13:57Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> You have to rezone.😃 The WBC compound is not on a business street but in a home-zone area. I pass by there several times a week, while driving my dog to the leash free dog park.
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> But the Equality House is right across the street to the east of the WBC compound.  
> [Google](https://www.google.com/#q=equality+house)
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> I’ll bet they’d let folks have weddings on the lawn out front. They already did one, but it may have not been a legal union, as Kansas still doesn’t have same-sex marriage.

Collins Park ?

Be pretty funny to be walking the dog in Topeka, quietly muttering to passers-by, " are you a Doper? Well, are yuh??? "

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/63 "2014-01-17T15:15:22Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> You haven’t heard us deal with hipsters, have you?
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> “Whassa matter, Brannnnndon, can’t get your flat black Amex card outta those skin-tight plaid pants to pay for that venti quad-shot half-soy half-cow 2% amaretto half-caf frappuccino extra hot with a dash of Sri Lankan nutmeg under the foam?”

– Golf Clap –

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**Author:** ![EMCEE\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@EMCEE\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EMCEE_98)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/64 "2014-01-17T15:58:04Z")

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_Ohhhhh-Klahoma! Where the wind grinds red shit in your eyes!  
Where every second you’re awake, you pray the Lord to take,  
Your tortured soul up into the skies!_

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/65 "2014-01-17T16:19:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> OK, if that’s what they want, I suppose, but I can’t help thinking it better if gay people are integrated into the general community with no more sense of negative distinction than hipsters, vegans or Satanists.

That would be nice, but very hard to do in a lot of areas. And in the recent past, very hard to do anywhere. Even in Southern California I worked with a lot of people that would be semi-nice in the office, but would no more want to spend any time with me or any other gay person that they didn’t have to. With those attitudes, it’s impossible to feel like you fit into the general community.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/66 "2014-01-17T16:25:08Z")

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I believe those are precisely the attitudes we are at such pains to change, yes?

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/67 "2014-01-17T16:39:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I believe those are precisely the attitudes we are at such pains to change, yes?

For sure. I’m not disagreeing with you at all. Just pointing out some of the reasons why it’s hard to do it and why a lot of people don’t even really want to try. Especially in very conservative areas. When you spend life being told you’re going to hell, or must be a child molester, a bad person because you’re not giving your parents grandkids, being beaten up regularly, or any of the other myriad ways one gets looked down on, trusting the ‘general community’ can be a bit of a pipe dream.

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**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/68 "2014-01-18T01:04:38Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> You haven’t heard us deal with hipsters, have you?
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> “Whassa matter, Brannnnndon, can’t get your flat black Amex card outta those skin-tight plaid pants to pay for that venti quad-shot half-soy half-cow 2% amaretto half-caf frappuccino extra hot with a dash of Sri Lankan nutmeg under the foam?”

> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> – Golf Clap –

Poetry. I’m off to the A.V. Club! I’ll give you full credit when I lay this gem at their feet.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/69 "2014-01-18T19:59:26Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> See? As soon as we allow gay marriage, the talk immediately turns to bestiality. Scalia was right!

Chicks and ducks and geese better scurry…

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/70 "2014-01-18T21:53:19Z")

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> [@EMCEE\_98](#):
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> _Ohhhhh-Klahoma! Where the wind grinds red shit in your eyes!  
> Where every second you’re awake, you pray the Lord to take,  
> Your tortured soul up into the skies!_

So, Oklahoma, how’re _you_ doin?

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/71 "2014-01-18T23:16:22Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> For sure. I’m not disagreeing with you at all. Just pointing out some of the reasons why it’s hard to do it and why a lot of people don’t even really want to try. Especially in very conservative areas. When you spend life being told you’re going to hell, or must be a child molester, a bad person because you’re not giving your parents grandkids, being beaten up regularly, or any of the other myriad ways one gets looked down on, trusting the ‘general community’ can be a bit of a pipe dream.

I live in Texas and work in the oil industry. One morning, when my assistant was new, his partner dropped him off at work and gave him a quick goodbye kiss without knowing that my husband and I were there until he walked past our truck and I waved at him. He fully expected to get fired for being gay.

Attitudes here in the middle of the Bible Belt are often strange to me. There are people here who honestly believe that spaying pregnant cats is abortion. I’m sure that someone with that sort of mindset would have no problem with trying to fix someone’s gayness by beating it out of them.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/72 "2014-01-19T00:38:10Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Collins Park ?
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> Be pretty funny to be walking the dog in Topeka, quietly muttering to passers-by, " are you a Doper? Well, are yuh??? "

No, the Bark Park is part of Gage Park, further west than Collins. Collins isn’t fenced, so the dog couldn’t run there.

I take Twelfth St. west to Gage, which takes me right past the WBC compound, located just a few blocks to the east of Gage.

Oh, BTW, the weekly sign up at the WBC compound states _“NO FAGS IN KING’S DREAM! GOD HATES ADULTERY! GOD HATES MLK!”_ There’s a biblical reference after that, but I didn’t catch it.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/73 "2014-01-19T00:55:47Z")

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> [@flatlined](#):
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> There are people here who honestly believe that spaying pregnant cats is abortion.

Doesn’t that imply that animals have souls? I thought it was “officially” determined that they don’t?

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/74 "2014-01-19T03:23:47Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Doesn’t that imply that animals have souls? I thought it was “officially” determined that they don’t?

I honestly have NO idea and I’m certainly not going to try to figure it out. I was seriously gob smacked the first time I heard that assertion. While I do love living here, sometimes the crazy is very strong.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/75 "2014-01-19T07:31:38Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> > [@flatlined](#):
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> > There are people here who honestly believe that spaying pregnant cats is abortion.
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> Doesn’t that imply that animals have souls? I thought it was “officially” determined that they don’t?

They don’t have souls unless the mother\* is spayed while pregnant, at which point God creates souls for the fetuses (feti?) so they can be considered aborted. Duh.

Or perhaps all animals have souls _in utero_, but they’re removed at birth — in much the same way as a human child’s life ceases to have value once it’s born, at least in the eyes of some conservatives.

\ ***Leaper** specifically mentions cats, but I presume the same principle applies to dogs, hamsters and musk oxen.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oklahoma-more-like-oklahomo-bitches/678827/76 "2014-01-19T08:22:23Z")

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“You’re doing fine, Oklahoma!  
Oklahoma, so gay!”

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