Olberman reports leak of draft Iraq Commission report.

Hamilton, the democratic co-chair of the commission would probably agree with you.
Here and here:

Bush is a lame duck after the november elections, so the GOP has got to start looking to its future beyond the president. It makes sense to get some little rumbles of that out now.

1991-2003? Doesn’t that mean that both presidents Bush are “Liberal Pussy Faggots?”

In the elder Bush’s war, the plan was to cripple Iraq, reclaim Kuwait for the royal family, and get the hell out. Then from 1991 to 2003, Saddam Hussein confined his nasty behavior to his own country. Bad for the Iraqis, but good for everybody else. So, this LPF stuff worked pretty well, until it was abandoned by Bush the younger.

Of course they wouldn’t. But doesn’t hashing out important policy issues just after an election deliberately exclude voters from the process?

The Los Angeles Times finaly got around to it.

I think the upcoming election is vital. Incumbents have a big edge and some of the districts have been Gerrymandered so that their are virtually a shoo in. That gives the Republicans a pretty good chance to hold Congress. Even if by only one seat in each house GW will claim vindication by the voters for “stay the course” and the congress won’t lift a finger to force any kind of alteration. At least not for too long.

Vote early and often.

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I finally got this after 24 hours. I’ll take him out and shoot him myself.

I am a New Yorker, and the Wikipedia article is reasonably accurate in my not particularly well informed opinion. The Sun has a small to miniscule circulation, and I’m surprised it still survives. The issues I’ve read over the years feature reasonably straight news, but with a conservative orientation. I tend to think of it as more of a vanity project than a true commercial enterprise.

In New York’s competitive daily newspaper market, when it launched it had some possibility of elbowing its way in among the three and a half majors (the Times, the News, the Post and Newsday). However, it didn’t make a big enough splash and didn’t develop enough of a following to become more than a media pee-wee.

I find it surprising that the Sun would be the outlet to break a story like this if only because I can’t ever recall it being on the leading edge of anything.

I must be a member of DENSA. I just don’t get it.

Hey, Baker’s Iraq Study Group must be reading the SDMB. They are proposing making accomodation with insurgents and bringing Iran and Syria into the solution to the mess. And also a phased withdrawal of our military.

Back on 6 September I proposed a plan in this post.

They left out Turkey and added trying to reach accomodation with the insurgents but then there are ten of them.

Monty Python and the Holy Grail, wherein redeployment orders are issued by shouting “Run away! Run away!”

Thanks. I haven’t seen that in ages so I’ve forgotten.

Baker’s describing Iraq as “a helluva mess.”

He’s got to be the last person on Earth to realize this.:rolleyes:

So, I guess that this means, “You’re doing a heckuva job, Bushie.”