# Old conspiracy theories **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 11, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834 "2015-07-11T03:24:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/21 "2015-07-14T13:55:07Z")
When I was in the Birch Society 1979-82, 1988-90, I rarely heard anything about Fluroride. Our main concern was the Trilateral Commission, the CFR, the Bildebergers, Soviet military buildup, and the usual taxation/debt/sound money issues. Most of the anti-Fluoride stuff I come across is from the anti-vaxx, anti-GMO crown which go both Left & Right. Art’s coming back on online radio next week & a few actual stations. Re Chuck Harder- was the energy machine invented by a Joseph Newman? ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/22 "2015-07-14T14:23:42Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Our main concern was the Trilateral Commission . . . The Trilateral Commission. Wow, there’s a blast from the past! A perennial old-time favorite: The king is a changeling. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/23 "2015-07-14T16:21:43Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > The Trilateral Commission. Wow, there’s a blast from the past! > > A perennial old-time favorite: The king is a changeling. Well, it was the end of the Carter Administration, which was practically the US Trilateral delegation at the time. Of course, Reagan had his share of CFR-Trilat folk, including V.P. Bush. ---
**Author:** ![jsquire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@jsquire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsquire)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/24 "2015-07-14T17:40:45Z")
I’m working on my Grand Unification Conspiracy Theory and I’m pretty sure the Knights Templar are the common thread. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/25 "2015-07-14T18:21:55Z")
> [@jsquire](#): > > I’m working on my Grand Unification Conspiracy Theory and I’m pretty sure the Knights Templar are the common thread. Actually, that’s more or less the plot of, Foucault’s Pendulum. Coincidence? _squints eyes, looks sideways at jsquire_ I don’t think so… ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/26 "2015-07-14T18:57:09Z")
See also… > **[The Illuminatus! Trilogy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy)** > > The Illuminatus! Trilogy is a series of three novels by American writers Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, first published in 1975. The trilogy is a satirical, postmodern, science fiction–influenced adventure story; a drug-, sex-, and magic-laden trek through a number of conspiracy theories, both historical and imaginary, related to the authors' version of the Illuminati. The narrative often switches between third- and first-person perspectives in a nonlinear narrative. It is thematical Th... ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/27 "2015-07-14T19:19:00Z")
> [@jsquire](#): > > I’m working on my Grand Unification Conspiracy Theory and I’m pretty sure the Knights Templar are the common thread. You’re reading the runes incorrectly. _Gladys_ Knight is the common thread. Consider the name of her backup singers - the Pips. Where did such a name come from? Listen, child, and I’ll tell you the whole sordid story. Don’t just take my word for it, though, it’s right there hidden in plain sight - consult your dictionary: “Pip” is a word with many meanings that extends back to the 1300’s. Each definition applies to the revolution and eventual takeover of the United States and, in short order, the world. [Definitions](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pip)of “pip” include: 1. A seed or root stock - signifies the start of the revolution and its growth from a small seed to a mature movement 2. The act of a bird breaking out of it’s shell - prophesied the beginnings of the US by incorporating imagery of its eventual symbol - the eagle 3. A small segment or spot - signifies each member’s part in the plot 4. Commissioned officer shoulder insignia - signifies the military discipline required to execute the plot 5. A disease in birds - references the beginning of the fall of the US (eagle imagery, again) 6. To kill by gunshot - the final overthrow of the US and world domination through armed conflict Scary stuff, when one knows where to look and how to read the signs. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/28 "2015-07-14T21:11:47Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Roman Catholics kidnapped babies and baptized them This is absolutely true, and AFAIK not controversial. See e.g. [Mortara case - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortara_Affair) ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/29 "2015-07-14T21:44:26Z")
> [@JoseB](#): > > I imagine that all the stories of kings and prices who “are not dead, but hiding and will some day come back” could be put into this category That’s the [“King in the Mountain” motif](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_in_the_mountain) or[trope.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KingInTheMountain) It’s been around since at least the early Middle Ages and is present in many cultures. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/30 "2015-07-16T00:15:40Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > I thought that Chuck was totally awesome. IIRC, his line of thinking was right along with mine, government/conspiracy/etc…-wise. At least, that is, till the late 90s. After that, I never heard from/of him. > > In re: Art Bell, I thought that he was totally cool, until he started in with Shadow People, and Remote viewing, and time traveling. He wouldn’t fucking shut up about them, and I got burned out. > One night, though, I was listening to his program about ghosts, or ghost stories; that one scared the pants off of me. Really) > Glad he’s back. He (Chuck Harder) had some kind of accident, I don’t recall exactly what it was, but it took him out of action for a while. He’s still around, Google him and you can still buy his short wave radio! ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/31 "2015-07-16T00:18:08Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > When I was in the Birch Society 1979-82, 1988-90, I rarely heard anything about Fluroride. Our main concern was the Trilateral Commission, the CFR, the Bildebergers, Soviet military buildup, and the usual taxation/debt/sound money issues. Most of the anti-Fluoride stuff I come across is from the anti-vaxx, anti-GMO crown which go both Left & Right. > Art’s coming back on online radio next week & a few actual stations. > > Re Chuck Harder- was the energy machine invented by a Joseph Newman? Google N Machine. As I recall, that’s what he referred to it as. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834/32 "2015-07-16T13:34:54Z")
Regarding the Kennedy assassination ; it is now almost 52 years since it happened. the “true believers” are getting pretty old-who will be left to carry on the tradition of conspiracy? It will be interesting to see if there is any interest, when the 60th anniversary rolls around. Of course, someone will write a book. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-conspiracy-theories/724834.md?page=1)