# Old Nazis on old tv programs **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 9, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486 "2024-08-09T17:56:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/81 "2024-08-18T22:41:45Z")
That’s not the one with the Spad and the Fokker, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/82 "2024-08-18T22:43:01Z")
I don’t remember. I see the entire series is available on Blu-ray though. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/83 "2024-08-18T22:46:44Z")
“Ze Baron und his Dachshund Willi!” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/84 "2024-08-18T22:50:31Z")
Any story in any franchise w Spads, Fokkers, and Nazis young or, worse yet, old all in one episode has some serious time-continuity challenges. Just sayin’. May as well throw in a sailing ship and a starship for good measure. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/85 "2024-08-18T22:56:00Z")
[![](https://mmogamerchick.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/tng-cast-generations.jpg) ](https://mmogamerchick.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/tng-cast-generations.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/86 "2024-08-18T23:08:09Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Ian Fleming’s James Bond novel **Moonraker** (1955) had ex-Nazis planning to use Britain’s first space missile to drop an atom bomb on London. I recall hearing someone complaining in the 1960s or 1970s about thrillers whose plots revolved around ex-Nazis getting hold of atomic bombs, so the idea wasn’t confined to Fleming. In the disappointing film adaptation of Tom Clancy’s _ **The Sum of All Fears** _, the Islamic terrorists who detonate an atomic bomb in Denver became Neo-Nazis who bomb Baltimore. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/87 "2024-08-18T23:09:44Z")
That was precisely my point. The Baron was a WWI vet, not an ON. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/88 "2024-08-18T23:15:33Z")
Around 1940, the SS started phasing out the black uniforms in favor of ones in different shades of grey. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/89 "2024-08-19T00:12:59Z")
By 1940 Germany was already suffering supply / logistical challenges. Shame, the black unis had _all_ the style. A beastly regime in every respect deserving of nothing but scorn and defeat. Although they did have good (pre-war) designers. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/90 "2024-08-19T00:32:34Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > A beastly regime in every respect deserving of nothing but scorn and defeat. Although they did have good (pre-war) designers. It was such a good design that the NVA (the army of East Germany) adapted the style after the war. > **[https://i.redd.it/akvbdjdoj7ca1.jpg](https://i.redd.it/akvbdjdoj7ca1.jpg)** ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/91 "2024-08-19T00:36:38Z")
Yep, they knew how to dress alright! ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/92 "2024-08-19T00:40:29Z")
Before there were Nazis there were Prussians, who presaged many of the tropes later associated with the Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/93 "2024-08-19T01:06:13Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > NVA (the army of East Germany) Which led me to an interesting wiki spelunk into the history & org chart of the NVA. Which was actually the entire armed forces of the GDR/DDR with sea, air, and land departments. Plus the border patrol whose job was 99% keeping people in, not out. Not quite as beastly as the Nazis but decently competitive runners up. Shame anyone anywhere ever had to, or has now to, live under such perverse regimes. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/94 "2024-08-19T07:52:14Z")
Re: the Johnny Quest episode: although Heinrich Von Duffel flies a WWI biplane, his uniform is more of a kid’s cartoon version of a WWII German uniform > **[Heinrich Von Duffel](https://jonnyquest.fandom.com/wiki/Heinrich_Von_Duffel?file=Heinrich_Von_Duffel)** > > Heinrich Von Duffel was a Nazi soldier who became trapped on Devil's Escarpment for several years. Klaus Heinrich Von Duffel was a Nazi Soldier who served in the Nazi Army, he was later arrested and lockup, but escaped impersonating a German Officer... ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/95 "2024-08-19T14:41:59Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Re: the Johnny Quest episode: although Heinrich Von Duffel flies a WWI biplane, his uniform is more of a kid’s cartoon version of a WWII German uniform Heh. I don’t think the author of the article is a native English speaker. 😉 It seems I misremembered some details. After reading the article, I remember the grenade on the wing. It’s interesting that the episode was from 1964. (I watched the cartoons on syndication on Saturday mornings.) Nineteen years after the war, it was plausible that Nazi war criminals were still on the loose. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/96 "2024-08-19T15:49:37Z")
That’s not the episode I was thinking of. This one is: [Shadow of the Condor | Jonny Quest Wiki | Fandom](https://jonnyquest.fandom.com/wiki/Shadow_of_the_Condor) The other link doesn’t specify what kind of aircraft was flown, other than it was a biplane and Quest & Company arrived in it. ---
**Author:** ![Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumberdale)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/97 "2024-08-20T19:05:35Z")
Just remembered there was mention of the American Nazi Party on WKRP in Cincinnati. What I recall is Mr. Carlson talking about his son wanting to joint the American Nazi Party and talking about taking Iowa (I think) first and then saying he doesn’t know what that means. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/98 "2024-08-20T20:02:32Z")
That must have been around the time (1978 or '79) there was a big stink because American Nazis wanted to march through the streets of Skokie, a predominantly Jewish neighborhood outside Chicago. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/99 "2024-08-20T21:15:53Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Nazis wanted to march through the streets of Skokie Man, I hate…well, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486/100 "2024-08-20T21:18:59Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > That’s not the episode I was thinking of. Hmm…I don’t think I’ve ever seen The Devil’s Tower. Though I do remember the Condor episode. I guess I have some watching to do. Get the DVDs out tonight. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-nazis-on-old-tv-programs/1005486.md?page=4)