# (Old) Oh, Eh? Can You See? - A Holiday MMP

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** mmp\
**Created:** [July 1, 2024, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555 "2024-07-01T06:11:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bob\_Blaylock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_blaylock/32/3235_2.png) [@Bob\_Blaylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Blaylock)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/301 "2024-07-07T16:39:17Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> The hell? _Buttons?_ My Cherokee has a [lever](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fgear-shifter-light-v0-bsbtmc0v9njb1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dc0fe0854218e274b7a22abc098b5881cba9d0014).

&nbsp; Must be a much older version.&nbsp; You should see the Bronco that we thought we were going to get a few years ago, before some unexpected fiscal issues depleted the money that we intended to spend on it.&nbsp; Even more modern and sophisticated than the 2020 Cherokee Trailhawk that we now have, with even more buttons and settings.

&nbsp; Our Cherokee doesn’t even have a 2-wheel drive mode at all (some lesser versions do).

&nbsp; By the way, we will now not drive any other vehicle. This one is all [we’ll|wheel] drive.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/302 "2024-07-07T16:57:19Z")

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> [@missred](#):
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> > [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> > Daughter has ordered the loft beds for the kids,
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> As young as they are, that surprises me.

Not to worry. At that age they bounce when they hit the floor. It’s folks **Jane** ’s and **Hubs** ’s ages that get hurt falling out of even low beds. 😉

  

**Taters** Hooray for extended Son visit even if that did trash your computer workspace.

  

> [@Sticks\_and\_Scones](#):
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> Wait a minute! You think I’m an _old person_??

No, no, NO! I don’t think that. I’m sorry if I offended you. I was saying the other people I knew who had it were old. It’d be up to you to decide if that aspect of the diagnosis applied to you or not. 😉

  

> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> When did you stop carrying your own water into restaurants? That was super normal in AZ, I’ve not seen it here.

I have never in my life seen somebody carry water into a restaurant. Not when I lived in Phoenix, nor Vegas, nor my extensive time visiting Tucson. I’ve certainly never thought to do it.

On second think that may be a bit extreme. There were ladies who carried a reusable water bottle / sippy cup with them _everywhere_. So it was always rattling around in the overnight bag they mislabeled a “purse”. It went into the restaurant with them, and back out. And might even be refilled there. But not drunk from while there. That’s just weird. 🤦‍♂️

> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> (Of course WV has so many counties in such a small state that the water companies might be comparable after all.)

They might be small, but they’re as broke as their customers. The horrors of Flint were less a matter of evil intent than simply a large job to do with no budget to do it with due to no tax base.

> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> We sprung for the nice thick paper plates instead of those flimsy ones that fold in half under a handful of chips and a teaspoon of dip cause we are all classy and shit!

I have a pack of the same ones ‘cuz I’m classy an’ shit too! They’re slowly getting used when I’m feelin’ lazy. Somehow dumping a styro of yesterday’s (hah) leftovers on a real plate seems like puttin’ on airs. If it comes out of a styro, it goes on a paper plate as Og intended.

  

**Oopsie** that rehearsal and performance plan sound like real progress and great fun.

Any teenaged girl with a Lambo poster in her bedroom is gonna grow up to be my kinda woman. Roowwwr! Roowwwr! (“Those are engine noises, not flirty noises” sez he… “Yeah, suuuuure they are” sez she.) 😉

  

Another vote that thermal curtains can really change the heat balance in a room or building. Anyone concerned about HVAC cost or capability who has direct sun-exposed windows really ought to try them. And yeah, **Jane** ’s comment about year-round averaged billing is spot-on. If your provider offers it, you might well sign up for it.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/303 "2024-07-07T16:58:48Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> This afternoon’s plans mostly involve seeing how close I can get to finishing Notre Dame. There are still 9 bags left, but some of them are small. I spent some time this morning figuring out where it will go when it’s done: turns out it’s just a _hair_ too wide to fit where I’d originally planned to put it, but I rearranged a few other sets and have a good spot for it now. Assembly will resume after lunch.

Jelly. I have the Artemis Space Launch System set sitting here looking at me accusingly. And the Apollo Lunar Roving Vehicle on order. I’ve finally cut down to just ordering the ‘real’ space sets and the very occasional nostalgia piece. My ultimate goal is to have a collection of the US rockets, but most of them will have to be MOCs. I have links to plans/shopping lists for:

- Mercury/Gemini
- Delta II
- Delta IV
- Falcon 9 with Crew Dragon
- Falcon Heavy
- Starship and Super Heavy (probably hold off on this one until the thing is finalized).

Missing the Atlas Series and the Saturn 1/1B.

Part of the difficulty is that I want them all at the same scale as the Saturn V that I bought several years ago.

And I’m always looking for a deal on the Ghostbusters firehouse and original Ecto-1 set (with all 4 Ghostbusters as minifigs).

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/304 "2024-07-07T17:11:37Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> **FCM,** how is your daughter’s new job going?

She’s loving it, except for the long drive. But she likes her coworkers and the fact that she doesn’t bring work home with her and she doesn’t have to deal with parents and teens. Not to mention the pay… Yeah, she’s happy.

**FCD** , Daughter, and SIL retrieved the bimini frame. Everyone ate and everyone who doesn’t live here have gone home. Blissfully quiet.

The people who were coming for the other bed backed out - husband decided a queen was too big. So I messaged one of the others who responded and if necessary, I can repost the ad. Annoying but not that big a deal.

And I have 4 cantaloupe of varying sizes! Maybe more since they’re green and effectively camouflaged. But Yay! Plus I saw 3 more cukes that are a few days from harvesting. No peppers at all and some 'maters still very green. It’s a good thing I don’t rely on farming to pay my bills! 🥴

Time for more chillage.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/305 "2024-07-07T18:38:01Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> It went into the restaurant with them, and back out. And might even be refilled there. But not drunk from while there. That’s just weird. 🤦‍♂️

It was only a matter of time. I also carried around my refillable bottle of water in my bag, but then the bottles with the snap-hooks that you could clip to outside of your bag came out and the bottle would clang against the chair or floor, so it made it’s way onto the table. Once the bottle was on the table, it was only natural to drink from that rather than making the diner staff fill and wash a glass of water that would only have a few sips taken due.

I’ve seen bottles and insulated cups on restaurant tables for at least a decade now. At first it was just fast food places, then diners. Mexican places were next and then the steak houses.

I really am trying to break myself of the habit now. It is easier now that I don’t need a big gulp of ice water just to walk across a parking lot without dying of thirst.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Anyone concerned about HVAC cost or capability who has direct sun-exposed windows really ought to try them.

We are in full agreement again. The window in question only needs to be covered a couple of hours a day, but hanging the curtains yesterday kept the dining room much cooler for the rest of the evening.

Our last place didn’t have any east/west facing windows, this place has windows on all four sides so I’m going to have to remember than when I’m replacing all of the brothel draperies.

So far, the ice cream trick seems to have worked. After Hubs sat down and relaxed over a bowl of ice cream he announced that GG needed a nap and stretched out on his recliner. I’m happy.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/306 "2024-07-07T19:19:15Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> **Nettie** , that is a sharp-looking vehicle too. Next year will probably be my car-replacement time, will have to remember to look at those two vehicles.

When we decided that, yes, we do need two vehicles so I have a wider range of employment options, we knew we needed good cargo capacity for DH’s work tools and the ability to handle rough construction sites the Dart (it’s a pretty compact sedan) should never have been asked to venture onto. DH also wanted good off-road capacity (which I can see being useful in an emergency situation such as evacuation).

> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> mine has been on pretty much 24/7 lately, I set it pretty high (77F) but yeah, when the electric bill shows up in August it might be a bit painful.

I love my power company’s “budget billing” option that evens out my payments over the year. 🙂

> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> After Hubs sat down and relaxed over a bowl of ice cream he announced that GG needed a nap and stretched out on his recliner.

Of course he’s not going to admit he needed it too. Gotta cover by blaming the cat and making himself look like the devoted doting kitty daddy. 🙂

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/307 "2024-07-07T20:20:16Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> > [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> > After Hubs sat down and relaxed over a bowl of ice cream he announced that GG needed a nap and stretched out on his recliner.
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> Of course he’s not going to admit he needed it too. Gotta cover by blaming the cat and making himself look like the devoted doting kitty daddy.

Meanwhile, **Jane** has carefully exercised the stomach → heart → mind control trick that has let women rule this planet since forever. Wily indeed is that vixen. Smart too. Did I mention both subtle _and_ talented? 😉

  

**FCM** : Thanks for the update on Daughter. I too was curious but was a bit afraid to ask, lest another tale of towering vexation in FairyChatLand come pouring forth. Your clan is way overdue for stuff to start going right again. I’m real happy to hear this is one of those things.

And yaay for the beginnings of fresh vegs. Sounds delish. I have rather little experience as a veg gardener, but what little I did have tended to follow a pattern:

> No veggies yet; No veggies yet; A couple teeny veggies now; Wow, a decent amount of veggies this time; Holy Crap what am I gonna do with all this produce??!!!?

You may be about to round the knee in that curve. 😁

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**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/308 "2024-07-07T21:07:08Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> > [@missred](#):
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> > You may find this [YT channel](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+hillbilly+files) an interesting tour of your area of WV,
> 
> Thank you SO much for that link, I’ve already started down the rabbit hole and can see myself spending many happy hours learning stuff.

I hope that you enjoy it! It’s one of my favorites to craft by.

> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> > [@missred](#):
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> > Yay! I found one on MP that I can pick up tomorrow 10 miles from home.
> 
> Hurray! Available now and easy to pick up, how often does that happen with hobby stuff?!?

Well, not this time. When I got there, she had an original Expression, like my backup machine that I switched to last night. Still have the bid on one on EBay and looking for others.

> [@Misnomer](#):
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> In other news, I just got the results of my mammogram: all is well! 🎉

Yay!

Dinner (white bean, rosemary lemon stew) was yummy. In a bit, I’ll complete assembly on the set of cards that I cut last night. Not a whole lot else shaking at CasaRoja.

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/309 "2024-07-07T21:27:54Z")

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Howdy Y’all! We deheathenated and then decided to get fried chikin N.O.L.s from the Pubic Sto’ deli at the _other_ Pubic Sto’ as we were closer to that one. We got back to da cave, et, and then accomplished nappage. It’s been threatenin’ rain all afternoon and may still yet do so. The biiiiiig trash can has been hauled all the way down to the road for pickup tomorrow. Netflix, chill, and popcorn are on the agenda and will begin shortly. Thus it is in swampland.

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> how close I can get to finishing Notre Dame.

Thanks for your descriptions and updates. I told a friend how the Notre Dame set is constructed–she’s a church architecture afficionado.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/311 "2024-07-07T22:37:51Z")

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Gotta love it when the cat _thinks_ he’s helping with housework, but he’s really not.

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53842417480_38ecedac33_b.jpg "Not Really Helping") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/seanette/53842417480/)

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/312 "2024-07-07T22:39:00Z")

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Cute, though.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
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That he does quite well. 🙂

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/314 "2024-07-07T23:37:59Z")

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That should be the pic for your christmas card!

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
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If I did Christmas cards (I don’t, due to lack of organization), I’d either pick something more religious-theme or have DH help me come up with a collage of photos of all three pets, since I try not to play favorites among my “kids”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
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Evening all. Finally got myself in motion and spent some gym time on the bikes, so don’t feel too guilty about the extra pieces of rye bread I ate after my sammiches tonight. Still at 90F at 6:30pm, so no rest for the HVAC until late tonight.

**Taters** , glad your son was able to visit.

**FCM** , great news on Daughter’s new job; bet they are happy they hired her, too. Hope bed #2 gets grabbed soon.

> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> (Pro-tip: if you get in enough water that your doors are leaking, do NOT shut your engine off. Instead, drop down a gear if possible and keep the engine revved. That will blow the water out allowing you to GTF out of the water instead of sucking water into the engine and spending much money getting towed and rebuilding the engine.)

Sounds like the voice of experience… And ice cream would work on me, sure it will work on Hubs. As for averaging the bill (also mentioned by **Nettie** ), I heat my house with gas, so when the electric bill is high the gas bill is minuscule, and visa-versa, so it works out pretty well.

**Oopsie** , sounds like a great time is to be had in about 10 days. Enjoy!! And I’d really like to see what that Lambo would look like.

> [@Misnomer](#):
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> Husband BFF made the same joke on Thursday.

Well, great minds and all that…

**Nettie** , love that picture. If he know how much water goes through that machine…

And that’s all he wrote. Picked up the Sunday NY Times and haven’t had a chance to read it yet, so that should fill the evening hours. Take care all and I’ll catch you on the next MMP.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/317 "2024-07-08T00:24:50Z")

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> [@Bob\_Blaylock](#):
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> You have to look more carefully to see that what these icons really depict is an SUV-shaped vehicle, with a dial above it, and an arrow pointing to that dial.

So what do those actually do?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/318 "2024-07-08T00:56:02Z")

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Release a flock of ducks.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-oh-eh-can-you-see-a-holiday-mmp/1003555/319 "2024-07-08T00:57:23Z")

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Turn on the submersible mode.

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In addition to my normal cleaning, I cleaned under the washer, dryer, stove and fridge. I also changed and laundered the sheets(with surprising little “assistance” from Spot.) I also did my grocery list for the week, and took out the trash and recycling between rains. I guess I would suck at being a RDOS. But I’m having a martini, since my orange for my Old Fashioned had a blight.

> [@Sticks\_and\_Scones](#):
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> You think I’m an _old person_??

So he should get off your lawn? 😉  
But hope you can find a do that will help fix that.

> [@Taters](#):
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> My son surprised us and showed up on the 4th of July in the early afternoon.

Yay for suprise son!(unless you are a guest on _The Jerry Springer Show_)

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> The hell? _Buttons?_ My Cherokee has a [lever](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fgear-shifter-light-v0-bsbtmc0v9njb1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dc0fe0854218e274b7a22abc098b5881cba9d0014).

My late Grand Cherokee also had a lever. Damn that was a fun truck.

> [@Seanette](#):
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> Gotta love it when the cat _thinks_ he’s helping with housework, but he’s really not.

"Go away! Or I will taunt you a second time!

> [@Seanette](#):
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> So what do those actually do?

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Release a flock of ducks.

> [@susan](#):
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> Turn on the submersible mode.

Join with 4 other Jeeps to form Voltron.

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