[QUOTE=OpalCat]
Hey KG, sorry for the hijack but I see that you list the Sonoran Desert as your location and was wondering more specifically where you were? I live in the Atlanta burbs right now but my first 25 years on Earth I lived in Tucson… and had the misfortune to eat at the Luby’s on Oracle a couple of times… gag…
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Gag, indeed! 
We live in Carefree (yeah, it really is!). It may not have existed when you were in Tucson. It’s north of Scottsdale, up in the foothills at 2600 ft elevation.
Oh, re the controversy, we also enjoy eating outdoors at seashore places, but will admit that the damn seagulls can be a royal pain, trying to steal your food. Adds to the excitement for me. Batting away flies is nothing compared to shooing seagulls. Fortunately, never encountered a condor!
This is another instance where the old places in the French Quarter have it right - their outdoor dining is in enclosed patios, which the building has been built around. No traffic or passers-by, minimal effect from the weather, except for rain, and the best damn food you’ll ever eat! it’s the only place I like to eat outdoors.
[QUOTE=Cluricaun]
Exactly, but I still prefer to be inside even at the bars. If I wanted to have a picnic, I’d pack a basket.
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Hit the nail right on the head. 
That’s why we invented walls.
[QUOTE=gotpasswords]
Here, you get all that, plus beggars that either hassle you for money, or reach over and grab food off your plate.
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Yeesh! Really? Can you name any SF restaurants at which I oughtn’t to eat en terrasse?
[QUOTE=Jodi]
KLONDIKE GEOFF
Just tell me you don’t go to Luby’s. Please, even if you’re lying, tell me you don’t go to Luby’s. 
[sub]Why? Average observed age at Luby’s: 900 years old. [/sub]
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When nine hundred years you reach, eat at Luby’s, you will, too, hmph!
[QUOTE=Enfant Terrible]
When nine hundred years you reach, eat at Luby’s, you will, too, hmph!
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[Admiral Fish Head]
It’s a trap!
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